Re: MD Personal Spirituality

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Thu Aug 01 2002 - 15:44:34 BST


Hi John, Rod:

JOHN:
> I cannot agree that Pirsig's static quality hierarchy is so structured
that
> it includes everything in experience except dynamic quality. The categories
> are not discrete. The 'social' level is then (in my opinion) something of a
> pseudo level, dealing with moral quality, as is clearly the 'intellectual',
> which has to cover the experience of quality in both art and science.

In his paper "Subjects, Objects, Data & Values" Pirsig argues that the
experience of quality which connects both art and science is the
"Conceptually Unknown" which is outside the levels, including the
intellectual. It is a third category beyond subjects and objects on which
intellect depends. Also known as the "Aesthetic Continuum" and
"Dynamic Quality." It is direct experience prior to concepts, i.e., the
knowable but ineffable, which sounds mighty like "spirituality" to me.

I agree with you that beauty, truth and goodness are all partly given,
partly learned. IMO it's a priori "givens" that are "spiritual."

Platt

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