Re: MD American Blues

From: Andrew Bahn (bahna@rpi.edu)
Date: Sun Aug 04 2002 - 21:03:05 BST


Obviously our values differ dramatically. I doubt either of us is
totally right or wrong, but as time goes on I am sure we will both learn
and evolve.

Thanks for the great dialogue.
Rog

Well....Your welcome. I would like to concur that that it has been a
great dialogue, but I usually require that I learn something from a
debate with another. If you find this insulting -- well...sorry. Your
obviously not stupid, but you do put up a lot of mental blocks. I am
sure you will accuse me of the same precondition and I am sure that in
some instance you are right. In this case, I hope not. You remind me
of Julian Simon responding to data on the limited supply of copper in
world. He responded by saying (I am paraphrasing, since I don't have
the exact quote available) "If man is in need of copper and the earth is
in short supply, I am sure, using his ingenuity, man will produce more
copper." When informed that copper is an element and there is no way of
manufacturing more copper, he replied (paraphrasing again) "If the Earth
has only a fixed supply of copper, and man is in need of more, there are
many other planets and stars in the universe which man can mine for
copper when he is in need." Of course, he is right -- there is copper
available in other sectors of the galaxy. The problem with this
attitude is that this is what we base policy on. An unrelenting
optimism that humans will solve all problems and crisis's as they are
presented to us. There is no need to anticipate, just keep on keeping
on and t' hell with the naysayers -- nothing but pessimists anyways."
Dialogue with individuals who hold such attitudes lead nowhere. It only
reassures my fatalist viewpoint. My hope for some more enlightened
views by our younger generation is all there is left. I knew going into
this dialogue with you that it would lead to nowhere, but I wasted my
time anyway. From now on, while reading the MOQ page from afar, rather
than to responding to such nonesense, I will take the advice of my
favorite departed MOQ'r, killerblade.

"here's what to do if it happens again: take a deep breath, dry your
eyes and say in a loud firm voice, 'OUT OUT DEMON OF STUPIDITY!'"

So long, again
Andy

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