Re: MD Consciousness

From: jhmau (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon Aug 05 2002 - 01:09:31 BST


Gary, I am uneasy with your jump.

Joe: Using defined words, trust is necessary for communication and action.
I don't trust my experience, I am certain! Gary: "The jump is from our
biological ancestors to homo sapiens who had the capacity to form thoughts
and create a way to communicate those thoughts." Joe: Homo sapiens acts
and wants to communicate what is done. Gestures and sounds remind another
of like actions, and they act together. Homo sapiens eats a walnut, and
wants to communicate how good it is. Gary: "Forming thoughts in ones mind
is the intellect level." Popular wisdom: "The pencil is mightier than the
sword." Gary: "Communication is the key to creating the Social level."(I
agree). Popular wisdom: "Actions speak louder than words." Joe: The
evolution from the social to the intellectual level makes words actions, and
pencils swords. Certainty in the place of trust, good in the place of
truth. There are no limits! Oh yeah? Focusing on quality I experience the
moral levels. A hold-over from an incomplete theory of knowledge which has
a split in existence holds mistrust (one contrary) superior to trust
(beautiful stories). Trust is not personal faith. A wish claims that a
trusting preemptive self-defense of society trumps a possible unlivable
world (certain). It seems illogical! Preemptive self-defense for a society
is not certain and only trust in sq, words makes it feasible.

Joe

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