In a message dated 8/7/02 1:10:03 AM GMT Daylight Time,
mpkundert@students.wisc.edu writes:
> In fact, Pirsig's ambivalent relation to Kant is possibly one of the most
> interesting facets about Pirsig's thought. We find Pirsig openly borrowing
> some of Kant's tools and making some of the same fundamental moves as the
> master chess player. (Its worth pointing out at least one: Kant's first
> cut of Reality is between phenomena and noumena. Phenomena was the
> definable stuff science was interested. Noumena is undefinable. Sound
> familiar?) And yet, at least in ZMM, Pirsig's project is almost entirely
> anti-Kantian. Essentially, what I want to say is that Pirsig is being a
> good philosopher when he is edifying and recontextualizing, not when he's
> systematic and logically arguing. Pirsig the Rhetorician and Cultural
> Critic, not Pirsig the Platonic Dialectician.
>
> Matt
>
Matt,
Even Plato did all this himself!
The indefinite Dyad is Plato's 'undefinable' as you put it.
Every philosopher hits this brick wall and even nominalists don't see
anything beyond culture?
It has been suggested that Plato got his undefinable from the East; his
Eros/logos split is reminiscent of Classic/Romantic. Plus la change.
Rorty is the latest philosopher spinning along their limited orbit away from
Quality.
That isn't so much recontextualising as just plain dropping it and moving
foreword.
Squonk.
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