Dear 3WDave,
You write 13/8 9:01 -0500:
'I was referring to ... the relative slowness or "trickle down" aspect of
intellectual values from the time a shift occurs there, until it widely
effects the other levels.'
I don't think 'trickling down' is a good metaphor for the relations between
levels. Does the content of a novel ever 'trickle down' to the word
processing software or even to the computer hardware?
You also write:
'Under the MoQ, "People changing their values" requires first a shift, a
dynamic change, in their intellectual values.'
According to me 'under the MoQ' people ARE their values. They cannot
distance 'themselves' from 'their values' and cause them to change.
'Under the MoQ' there are no objective and subjective entities with causal
connections and I would certainly not distinguish a 'higher level part' and
a 'lower level part' of the set of values making up a 'person' and suppose a
causal connection from 'higher' to 'lower'.
I wrote 13/8 11:31 +0200:
'Social progress has its own pace which intellectual patterns of values can
only force to a limited extent.'
If a book waiting -in the head of a writer- to be written needs another type
of word processing software (e.g. because it is to contain illustrations,
which the present type of software cannot handle) it can -to a limited
extent- force the development of a new kind of software.
E-mails express to a relatively high extent intellectual patterns of values,
I think. And the social patterns of values expressed are only marginally
involved when it comes to interpreting the meaning of words.
If you use 'values' in the SOMish sense in your e-mails instead of in the
MoQish sense, I don't think you can blaim it on the difficulty of an
intellectual pattern of values to influence a social pattern of values. Both
SOM and MoQ are intellectual patterns of values.
Please go on with you series of posts on 'sustainability', even if you
seem -in part 3- to come to different conclusions than I used to come until
now. I'm still reading them with a lot of interest.
With friendly greetings,
Wim
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