Re: MD Subconscious

From: skutvik@online.no
Date: Tue Aug 20 2002 - 09:26:36 BST


On 18 Aug 2002 at 23:27, Rod Porteous wrote:

> Hi All,
> A question has arisen which I have no answer to...
> "How does our subconscious react to quality?"
> If you accept that we are guided at times by our subconscious, our
> emotions, the little voice that stops us from doing things we know we
> shouldn't!, which of ourselves is reacting to the conflict in values,
> and ultimately to quality?

Hi Rod
I believe that starting a psychological ...lever A pushes against rod B which
turns wheel C ...etc. is in vain because psychology profess to be a branch of
science - a most hilarious claim, but nevertheless - and science is the
dominant pattern at the intellectual level and as such occupied by what
causes what in a somish (subject/object) manner. What psychology calls
subconscious is the whole value range below intellect.

Now, directly below intellect is society and that level expresses itself by
emotions (IMO) and these aren't exactly "subconscious", we are well aware
of the little voice (conscience) or of the bad/good feeling it induces in
ourselves. And as society is the foundation of intellect it may "rationalize" the
emotional signals ...no, not in the psychological sense of superego drifting
helplessly on top of "id", Intellect is an enormous value realm that in turn
may modify emotion yet the two aren't independent.

Another step down is biology, even more archaic and "sub", yet its
value/signals are experienced as pleasure or pain and a million shades in
between - by the senses (IMO). These are modified by society and intellect -
suppressed even - you don't copulate in the street and you share things with
other, but in dire circumstances it may take over completely and you turn
into an animal.

Which of ourselves ....was your question, better "which of our selves"? We
are an amalgam of the value levels and focus shifts between them. When all
biological and social needs are met those are "out of mind" and we can
concentrate on intellectual matters, but the balance is precarious, a sudden
ache; a feeling of not having done what you should do and our intellectual
considerations goes phooof!

> Are we wholly guided by our subconscious mind, if not then why do
> these events occur so often in all our lives?

As said the "subconscious" is a platypus, we are guided by the "value
minds".

Bo

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