Re: MD Consciousness

From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
Date: Tue Aug 20 2002 - 10:06:09 BST


In a message dated 8/20/02 9:28:04 AM GMT Daylight Time, skutvik@online.no
writes:

> Enter the MOQ and the static levels. The Sophists are in this retrospect
> seen as representatives of social value (Protagoras' "man the measure of
> all
> things" sentence its essence) and as the quest for objective truth (SOM)
> came to replace this, it is just as clear that SOM is the value level
> following
> the social one; In other words Q-Intellect is the value of the S/O divide!
> It's
> just written all over Pirsig's work.
>

Bo,
We know. You keep telling us until it hurts.
Why are you so proud of appropriating a fundamental point made in ZMM by
Robert Pirsig for yourself and then continually bleating about how marvellous
you are?
Just because YOU have arbitrarily decided to call the birth of rationality
'q-intellect' does not mean you wrote the rest of ZMM as well!

As you know, i feel intelligence was around in abundance before rationality
was born; i feel rationality is a methodology born of intelligence.
Protagoras was an intelligent man!
Rationality has turned this world into a technological shit hole with empty
carcasses for human beings wondering around like ghosts - except for those
uneducated and 'uncivilised' types who get fed less of the rational - and YOU
tell us this is q-intellect and HOW wonderful it was for the Tao to have done
it all!
Oh! But some, 'Integration' with MOQ is required, he says putting it arse
backwards.

If you follow your q-intellect to its conclusion, you may begin to see that
q-intellect does not require humans? In other words, q-intellect as you call
it is the launch pad for another level of evolution.

If, on the other hand, we forget your q-intellect and remember that
rationality is a method used artistically by intelligence, which may be
modified or expanded to undermine its severe SOM flavour, then there may be a
chance of moving forward with hope in our hearts and optimism in our thoughts
and deeds - and not towards the nightmare of a q-intellect which YOU feel is
more valuable and dehumanising.

There is no ART in your ideas.
Pirsig focuses on an aesthetic because rationality - while aesthetic - is
only one colour, so to speak, from a larger intelligent pallet.

You're blocking the light again and colours are looking drab and lifeless...

All the best,
Squonk.

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