Hi Davor,
>
[Gary]> >So, to understand how we come to know anything the first task is to
examine
> >how the tools we are given at birth work. We need to study the nervous
> >system and the biology of the sensory system. My premise is that the way
> >those systems handle sense data will set up a model for how it handles
any
> >data! Including the stuff of language, the stuff we read and hear.
>
> Davor:
> No I think you are wrong, I do not think studying of neurological
processes
> provides us with an explanation for social and intellectual pov, I could
be
> wrong, maybe Pennrose is right and we can explain it by Quantum mechanics
or
> a different approach as suggested in that special edition of Scientific
> american a pscyho-fysiological theory or some kind of information theory
you
> seem to suggest(but I don not think you will find data). But this is
> MOQ.org, i'm thinking about q-consiousness as a levelled or layered
> consiousness, different characteristics of different types of
consiousness.
> The studying of neurological processes imo does not deserve the credit of
a
> consiousness being able to grow beyond biological.
Gary: You may have missed my intro point I raised in an earlier post. I am
discussing here an investigation not of the food/Quality but of the
menu/Maps, to use the restaurant analogy which Pirsig presents in Chapter 5
pg 63 of the trade paperback Bantam 1991 ed. I am here interested not in
the map that Pirsig gave us in Zen and the Art or Lila, but rather in how
any human comes to understand anything. By understanding how we obtain
information and formulate ideas I beleive we can understand the limitations
and underlying assumptions of those formulations.
I think the study of Quanum mechanics in this pursuit is useless. The
affects of quantum mechanics are way too far down to have an impact or to
offer an analogy to the function of the brain/nervous/sensory systems, and
how we come to formulate ideas, how we think.
Our human consciousness comes out of the workings of our body and it is
affected by the workings of our body.
This thread perhaps should become a new one? These musings are not directed
yet to the workings of MOQ.
Gary
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