Re: MD food for thought

From: jhmau (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue Sep 10 2002 - 16:29:57 BST


Matt and Squonk

All the best! :)

Joe

  I have to keep responding 'cuz you just keep saying good things...

    Hi Matt,
    Yes, maybe we are much closer than the 'nasty' Squonk would have it?
    In a sense, placing Quality at the centre of a metaphysics destroys the metaphysics?
    After all, it is something of a contradiction?
    This contradicting tone continually shocks one into immediacy?

  This "contradictory tone" is exactly what I found when I last toyed with a Quality Metaphysics. DQ is seeing reality in a holistic manner and sq is seeing reality in parts. But both comprise the whole of Quality. Essentialy, 'DQ' and 'not DQ' equals Quality. The logical problem here is that it violates the Law of Contradiction, which has violent side-effects on those who want to use logic. Once you violate it, you can get any proposition you want. There have been a few philosopher's over the years who have violated, knowingly, the law of Contradiction (Sartre, for one). I think Pirsig is doing the same thing. The shock you get is a shock out of intellectualization, out of objectification.

  Though I've subsequently made the so-called linguistic turn (meaning I'd rather avoid speaking of "experience" and rather speak of "words" or "sentential attitudes"), I think the shake we get from Pirsig is one that makes one be quiet. It doesn't make you closer to reality, it just lets you see how precariously balanced your tools for coping with reality really are and that you should just sit back and enjoy a sunset once in a while.

  Matt
   

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