Re: MD Irrationality

From: jhmau (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon Sep 30 2002 - 18:24:03 BST


Sep. 28, 2002 6:56 AM Platt Holden pholden @ sc.rr.com writes:

> Will there be anything if we are not here? Arguably the thorniest
> question in philosophy. (Does a tree falling in a forest make a sound if
> there's no one to hear it?). Some quantum physicists tell us there's
> nothing until it is observed. Philosophers like Richard Rorty tell us
> there's nothing until some group says so. Pirsig tells us reality is
> Quality, a force for Good that exists whether we're here or not.
>
> So I think Pirsig's answer to your question, "Who sets the standard?"
> would be "Quality." If we were to get wiped out, presumably Quality
> would begin again to create the moral levels as it did before. Static
> patterns can be destroyed, but not DQ.
>
> I side with Pirsig. Where do you come down?
>
> Platt
>

joe,

"Will there be anything if we are not here?....Persig tells us reality is
Quality, a force for Good that exists whether we're here or not.....Static
patterns can be destroyed, but not DQ....I side with Pirsig. Where do you
come down?" I feel there is something in these statements that leaves me
numb. They are not plain speech, they are not filled with life. They are
an old way of looking at things. I do not know if they are doctrines, or
despair. They are lead balloons. They are not the flowing springs of my
experience. Do I have better words? I will keep looking.

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