From: pacodegallo@attbi.com
Date: Tue Oct 01 2002 - 02:08:57 BST
>from an undisclosed location,
>DMB
PACO:
My guess is Berkeley California. Close?
> Hey gang:
>
> Ken Wilber makes the connection between mainstream conservative values and
> their more extreme and lethal counterparts in his "Integral Psychology". On
> page 150 he says,
>
> "Its unbelievably crude forms, such as Social Darwinism, are not just
> lacking in compassion; much more sinister, this type of crass
> "evolutionism", pressed into the hands of moral tyrants, would produce
> exactly the type of ruinous and barbaric notions of the superman, the master
> race, the coming human demi-gods, who would chillingly goose-step their way
> into history, who would in fact inscribe their beliefs on the tortured flesh
> of millions, would press their ideology into the gas chambers and let it all
> be setttled there."
>
> And on page 152, he echoes Pirsig's description of fascism as an
> all-consuming glorification of the social level.
>
> "Auschwitz is not the result of rationality. Auschwitz is the result of the
> many products of rationality being used in irrational ways. Auschwits is
> rationality hijacked by tribalism, by an ethnocentric mythology of blood and
> soil and race... These are not rational desires by any definition of
> rational; these are ethnocentric tribalisms commandeering the tools of
> advanced consciousness and using them precisely for the lowest of the lowest
> motives. Auschwitz is the endgame, not of reason, but of tribalism."
>
> Conservatives tend to mistrust the United Nations precisely because it
> supresses tribalism, nationalism and other social level impulses. This
> mistrust goes hand in hand with an exaggerated patriotism. The UN is even
> the hated object of conspiracy theories among the militia movement and
> neo-Nazi types. The UN is a post-Victorian invention. Woodrow Wilson, WWI,
> you know, when the earthquake began, when the hurricane hit. Its one of
> those "freak fish". In terms of the conflict between social and intellectual
> values, the folks at the UN are wearing the white hats. GWB's reluctance to
> involve us with the UN, or any other international agreement, only shows the
> degree to which he is a tribalists, to which he is ruled by social level
> values. It doesn't mean he's stupid or evil, although that's true too, it
> just means that in the course of our evolutionary development he's not
> helping. He's behind the curve, even in these retro times. More than any
> other feeling, he evokes embarrassment.
>
> from an undisclosed location,
> DMB
>
>
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