From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
Date: Tue Oct 01 2002 - 11:17:46 BST
In a message dated 10/1/02 2:28:36 AM GMT Daylight Time,
Oldehippie1947@aol.com writes:
> squonk
>
> Re; intellect impaired
>
> Yes, and the vehicle perpetuating it is because we have learned in our
> socialization process to believe that some people have more value than
> others as "human beings." We learn to judge other people and marginalize
> people who are different. A person marginalized in our society is denied
> equal access to the social and economic benefits society has to offer. Thus
> you become part of the poor and homeless. The threat of our being
> marginalized is the great motivater, (at least if you believe the perceived
> power and authority in our society), that drives people to leave a warm bed
> to travel to work when it is -20 degrees outside. What society doesn't
> recognize is this threat is an act of violence against ourselves. An act of
> violence created and perpetuated through the influence of the collective
> consciousness whose only power over us is that which we create every time
> we judge another human being. It doesn't even matter if your judgment is a
> good one. As long as we judge others t! he cycle of violence in society
> will continue. Remember; All violence is related, violence breeds violence
> and violence tends to escalate.
>
> Darrell
Hi Darrell,
Watch out!
You may find yourself marginalised for saying this?
The US values the individual as long as the individual upholds what is right
and just?
(I remember Peter Ustinov saying that he could never have entered politics
because he simply could not bare the responsibility of being right all the
time!)
Therefore, the US values a rational basis for imposing one view of reality
upon everyone else; and you cannot argue, for to argue is to be irrational
and therefore un-righteous and unjust.
It is rational to be greedy and value material possessions because no one can
criticise this view on appeals to quality. In a material society, quality IS
material!
As you point out, and as i have embellished (?) violence is done to ourselves
and to those we love?
After a life time of that sort of treatment at the hands of ones own
righteous and just fellow members of society, the clash between an intuitive
sense of real Quality and its jaded material reflection must approach
crushing?
(Unless one has lots of money to rearrange matter for your own amusement?)
The emphasis upon individual value is pertinent to the current situation in
Iraq?
There is a growing feeling that the US should either wish to withdraw from a
world it does not share, or change the rest of the world and so assimilate
it?
For most of its 20th century history, the US has lead a merry dance between
these views with no real attempt to change its fundamental tone?
And as suggested above, this is a rational and just, and right melody with
which to whistle while you work?
God help us all.
All the best,
Squonk.
P.S. Is that better Horse? ;)
MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org
Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/
MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net
To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at:
http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Fri Nov 01 2002 - 10:37:51 GMT