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Subject: Re: MD faith
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 10:13:29 -0500
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Scott makes some great points (especially in his general
agreement with me ;)
> Scott wrote:
>I agree in general, but I think there is also a need for
> dogma, but only
> on the condition that it be inexplicable.
"all men are created equal" is delighfully inexplicable in
this way. There is dynamic quality in that it requires us
to interact with it to create underatanding of it and let it
shape our lives.
Robert
> Magliola's book
> ("Derrida on the Mend") has a very interesting discussion
> on how the
> Church's "understanding" of the Trinity was carefully
> drawn between the
> two heresies that arise by attempting to find an
> understandable notion
> of the Trinity, modalism on the one hand (that the three
> persons are
> "aspects" of God), and polytheism on the other (that there
> are three
> Gods). The "truth" is that God is three and one, which of
> course is
> unthinkable.
I understand it as a way of resolving the ideas of immanence
(God's nearness) and transcendence (God's otherness). These
also seem contradictory. Most people focus on transcendence
resulting in the Supreme Being puppet master God that
controls events from outside the world. Obviously such a
concept results in all kinds of contradictions.
For those that find a concept of God useful, Panentheism is
becoming more popular all the time which allows for
transcendence and immance with no "fuzzy math" (1+1+1=1).
> That which we understand is
> dead, while a
> nice piece of mystery keeps it alive and dynamic.
Nice!
> On a different subject, I note that no one has so far
> answered your
> first post, on whether people here find the MOQ useful for
> clearing up
> moral questions. Given that most acrimony here arises from
> differing
> opinions on the moral issues of the day, it would appear
> that it does not.
I was afraid of that. Early in Lila, Pirsig seemed to say
that it does, but I couldn't see how.
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