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Date: Wed Oct 02 2002 - 16:37:39 BST
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> erin writes:
> > I think Scott is right. I think it is possible to
> > eliminate 'faith based
> > arguing' without eliminating religion.
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> I would rather keep faith while eliminating dogmatic
> religion. Faith doesn't necessarily have anything to do
> with making metaphysical or historical statements. Let=92s
> consider a secular example, or what might be considered part
> of our shared American faith: "We hold these truths to be
> self-evident, that all men are created equal=85" I contend
> that this is a statement of faith that we assent to as
> Americans. First, recognize that as a statement of fact it
> has no meaning, or we could even say that it is most
> certainly not true in the factual sense. We are not all
> born with the same genetic material and into the same social
> and economic standing. None of us believe it in a factual
> way. In fact, if it was indeed self-evident, it would not
> even have been worth saying. This is a statement of faith
> rather than factual belief in that by assenting to it we are
> holding it to be self-evidentby choosing to assign the same
> value to one another. The life of a king or president is no
> more sacred than the life of a poor child. Assenting to
> "All men are created equal" is recognizing that your self is
> just as important to you as my self is to me. This idea
> affects the decisions we make, the laws we pass, and how we
> administer justice, and most importantly how we interact
> with one another on a daily basis. Not bad for a statement
> that we all know in are minds is not true. It is powerful
> because we hold it in our hearts to be more than fact. This
> is how faith works. Religious faith works in the same way.
> Everyone chooses to live based on convictions that they feel
> have value. Discussion of statements of faith must revolve
> around arguing about the value of living as though a given
> statement is true, not in whether or not it is factually
> true.
>
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