From: pacodegallo@attbi.com
Date: Sat Oct 05 2002 - 16:11:56 BST
Hi John,
JOHN:
I had been enjoying Matt's short
> course on Rorty, and find much off what he says
interesting and thought
> provoking. I am particularly taken by his
understanding of 'final
> vocabularies', and their 'incorrigibility'.
>
> Two recent interchanges in this forum seemed to me to
reinforce his
> argument. David's 29th Sept posting (on Moral
Clarity) argued that
> conservatism is dominated by social values, and the
response from Roger was
> predictable (denial, avoidance, outrage, followed by
a smoochin 'We really
> don't disagree that much'). I wouldn't blame David
for not coming back.
PACO:
Ouch! First you wouldn't let Platt and me come over
to your house for the pajama party, and now you
besmirch my reputation (or at least you would have if I
had one). I guess it makes sense though, since David's
argument was somewhat of an extension of one that you
alluded to a few months ago -- namely that the US
society is deficient in intellectual (higher) values.
Just to clarify, my response was disagreement
accompanied with specific refutation (which David
accepted and then used to change the argument in a
direction which I agreed in principle but not in extent
or one-sidedness). My outrage (which was shared by
others, including the site moderator) was with Squonk,
David and other's general level of argumentation (name
calling) and with David's attempt to disparage the
accuracy of my characterization of his position. After
I backed up my characterization with direct quotes from
his posts, he again dropped the issue. I was however
guilty of being ridiculously sarcastic throughout the
exchange. (but I meant the smooches)
Sam then saved us all and took the discussion to a much
higher level with a wider perspective on Conservatism.
Perhaps you or David would like to address it?
Paco
PS -- Sometimes I think you guys believe I am a card-
carrying conservative.
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