From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Thu Oct 10 2002 - 21:01:28 BST
Dear Platt and Darrell,
Platt, you wrote 24/9 9:59 -0400:
'Societies only change one person at a time and someone has to be first ...
We're the vanguard ...'
I wrote 30/9 23:24 +0200:
'There are lots of discussion lists like this one ... plus chat boxes plus
mobile phone circuits plus ... so this mailing list may already be lagging
behind ... If someone -logically- has to be first, the speed of imitation is
so high, that quibbling over who is first is pointless. Logic may fail here
... Maybe social change is not located in individuals at all, but rather in
the relations between a lot of them...'
You wrote 3/10 12:33 -0400:
'First, if you can recommend any philosophy sites on the general quality
level as this, I would like to know about them. The babble that goes on in
chat boxes, mobile phones, etc. I consider irrelevant to any worthwhile
social change. Positive social change does require relations among
individuals to be sure, but someone--a brujo, a Galileo, a Lincoln, a
Pirsig--has to be first.'
No, I don't have enough experience with other websites or mailing list. MD
doesn't leave me enough time for it. (-:
I don't think the (intellectual) content of (social) intercourse is more
than marginally relevant for social change. The MoQ-levels are discrete,
remember? The main contribution to worthwhile social change of discussion
lists, chat boxes, mobile phone circuits etc. may be that it connects more
people. They will react more as one (less as individuals). Cultures that are
connected in this way (like the American and the West-European cultures) are
less likely to drift apart. For SOCIAL change form is more important than
content.
INTELLECTUAL progress is quite another chapter. There the mushrooming of
different forms of communication and their expansion and intensification
means more choice from ideas to identify with, to create your 'self' from.
People may become more 'individuals' on the intellectual level. The
diversity of systems of ideas and their speed of change will explode.
Darrell contributed 3/10 17:32 -0400 his ideas about 'emphatic rationality'
and 'empathic thinking'.
Please elaborate. They may be a key to preventing the drifting apart of
(social) behavior and (intellectually motivated) action. They may also be no
more than wishful thinking...
With friendly greetings,
Wim
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