From: jhmau (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat Oct 12 2002 - 19:27:36 BST
On 11/10 5:23 PM SQUONKSTAIL @ aol.com wtites:
Hello All,
I need some help with the MOQ view of social patterns of value.
Please submit any views...?
All the best,
Squonk.
Hi Squonkstail, Darrell and All,
IMO the social patterns of value are determined by examining 'celebrity status' and cummunication using defined words. The social order changes as need changes, for example the population pressure to produce more food from an acre of land. Actions in the social order are determined by trust in words rather than certainty. Lawgivers, judges, leaders are social patterns, as well as police, constitutions, heredity and an unhindered vote.
Rhetoric, which implies a process to a decision based upon the structure of the faculty for obtaining meaning, uses logic which is another social pattern based in communication. The 'good of the many outweighing the good of the one' is a pattern of social order. The dynamic experiences of meaning, existence, purpose are filtered through the dynamic celebrity of the social order and bec- ome distorted patterns.
Darrell uses the term "Empathic Rationality" (Thanks Darrell), (by the way, I really enjoyed the color in your email!), to IMO indicate a process of how the social order moves to the intellectual order, clearing up the distortions. His whole email of Oldhippie1947 @ aol.com on 11/9 11:55 AM seems to me to throw light on this subject.
joe
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