From: Thomas Op de Coul (todcoul@koncon.koncon.nl)
Date: Mon Oct 14 2002 - 21:23:33 BST
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Platt Holden wrote:
> Pirsig's premise is that experience is Reality, prior to any division,
> especially the subject/object one that has prevailed down the ages. His
> division or "first cut" (necessary for cognition and communication) is to
> split universal experience (Quality-Reality) into Dynamic and static.
>
> In Chap. 5 Pirsig lays out his initial premise:
>
> "Quality is a direct experience independent of and prior to intellectual
> abstractions.
Dear Platt,
as I wrote to Wim already a while ago: where does this account of
experience leave us? What are we? Are we results from experience? And what
does free will mean then ? (I just remember a thread about free will,
which i missed, so hopefully i havent missed any essential things...)
Can you really seriously conceive of experience without anything to be
experienced or experiencing? I must say I find it extremely hard. And if
we take pirsigs own test for 'believability' (excuse this terrible term -
dont know a better one) of a theory: that everybody should be able to
understand it (see ch8 in Lila, about which a long essay/post of mine will
be forthcoming), then this is not a particular convincing theory to me.
But all of this I shall return to in my forthcoming mail.
yours
Thomas
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