From: Peterfabriani@aol.com
Date: Tue Oct 22 2002 - 18:19:42 BST
In a message dated 10/22/02 5:47:46 PM GMT Daylight Time,
Elizaphanian@members.v21.co.uk writes:
> Hi Peter,
>
> What we are discussing are the descriptions of the static levels, not
> dynamic quality itself. As such it is susceptible to analysis and
> definition. (And Pirsig himself outlines a way of understanding the
> individual as the creation of many different patterns of value). Of course
> there are ways to 'deconstruct' the notion of an individual and to deny the
> possibility of it having boundaries; however, I don't have a great deal of
> sympathy with their final conclusions. To tie in with the other thread
> here,
> it is the individual that judges and discriminates, and is therefore able
> to
> discern Quality (to make the 'moral judgements' that Platt has just
> referred
> to); it is therefore the individual that is the vehicle of evolution, as in
> Wim's definition: "a process by which weak Dynamic forces at an individual
> level discover stratagems for overcoming huge static social forces at a
> collective level."
>
> Sam
>
Hello Sam,
Yes i see your emphasis, but i do not agree. This makes me feel inadequate
but i must learn to cope with that. Huge static social forces ARE those
centred upon individual celebrities. These forces may be challenged by
intellectual patterns and not through individuals.
Peter.
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