From: The Pantophobic (trivik@stwing.upenn.edu)
Date: Thu Oct 31 2002 - 23:56:45 GMT
Quoting Elizaphanian <Elizaphanian@members.v21.co.uk>:
> the 'standard account' of the MoQ
may the forces in the DQ smile upon you – finally an explanation!
I’ll just repeat all of what you said to see if I got it correct –
forgive/assist me.
> (MoQ) is an intellectual ordering of experience
ok
so you are saying that it is mealy an ordering and nothing else? without the
intellect there would be no MoQ ?
> All that exists is a form of Quality
> DQ is the driving force of evolution,
> the lure which all of existence pursues.
ok
so all that exists is quality and everything that exists peruses DQ. ‘Peruses
DQ’ meaning it does not possess it – then nothing can have any DQ, DQ is simply
all the Quality that one does not possess?
> [for] Something new [which] comes into existence.
> to be maintained in existence it must 'static latch'
> These static latches form the known world.
> They are the stable forms of Quality.
ok
so all that there is, is SQ?
you say that a static latch is that which is:
> able to generate a particular pattern of value which persists over time
I do not understand this.
Is it the case that things can flash in and out of SQ – say think a new thought
which no one has ever thought before (ha!) which lasts for 5 min and then I
forget it forever – the thought had no SQ? – it certainly was not DQ – as I
could have described it – or is it that now that I can not describe it, it has
sort of been lost to the DQ, and it was SQ while I had it?
If that were the case is it correct to say that there is quality. SQ is the
visible portion while DQ is the rest. So the DQ and SQ may constantly be
changing – quality passing between the two?
If so what do you mean by ‘visible’? – is visible that which exists, so then is
it that SQ exists while DQ does not exist and is merely an explanation for
change in SQ. else is visible that which has been understood (intellectualized)
Then you also say
> DQ...is the cutting edge of experience.
> It is pre-intellectual awareness.
I do not understand this – is it the case that a thing either has or does not
have a form of quality, as is the case with SQ, or is it that everything has DQ
and has merely made it visible to different degrees?
that’s enough for now.
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