Hi Horse and Squad
You wrote:
[...]
> Where I think you have made a
> mistake is in your view of the relationship of the Inorganic level and
> the one's and zero's of computers etc. The Machine Language
> Insruction Repertoire (MLIR) and the ones and zero's are
> constructions of Intellect.
Yes, and so could our inorganic level be.
I think it boils down to what we mean by the term Universe. A universe
is ALL of reality, you can't go or see beyond the borders of your own
universe. If you do, you are not peeking outside your universe, you are
expanding it.
So, what you do with the viruses' universe is to expand their universe
built on ones and zeros to include our universe out here. The equivalence
for us would be to expand our universe and be able to see the source of
and even manipulate the laws of nature.
What I think the metaphysics part of the MoQ says about this is that it
is a framework for all possible universes, all possible physics. It
doesn't matter how far you expand your universe, it's still a universe
and can be described with the MoQ, so it still has four levels.
> The one big difference here is that their environment is a product of
> the persons that I mentioned earlier. Persons would exist without
> this environment, the virus wouldn't.
I disagree, the viruses are not dependent on persons. They are
constructed by persons, yes. But they would still be around if we
committed genocide.
> The ones and zeroes and the
> MLIR are an ANALOGUE of the inorganic level and the 'laws' of
> physics. But unlike the 'true' (original?) inorganic level they are a
> construction dependent on the existence of the 4 levels
There is no true or original inorganic level. Our inorganic level is
an example, or an object to use object oriented lingo of the class
"inorganic levels" described by the MoQ.
> This is where the SO platypus exists. SO thinking (SOTAQI)
> excludes PoV's that are not within the 4 levels.
Come on, SO thinking doesn't have a clue about the levels in the
first place.
> We're so used to thinking in terms of Intellect being the crowning
> glory of creation that it is virtually impossible for many people to
> accept that the coming AI's and ALife's are any more than science
> fantasy - personally I blame religion :).
In what way would AI and ALife be more than intellectual patterns?
Magnus
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