Re: MD Level 5...?

From: Martin Striz (striz@ezwv.com)
Date: Mon Sep 21 1998 - 08:56:27 BST


Hi Platt and squad,

>“If a running program is an information processor, does that mean it
>is just like the brain? After all, the brain is an information processor,
>too, right? Wrong: the brain is no mere information processor, it is a
>*meaning creator*--and meaning creation is a trick no computer
>can accomplish. ... You can build a sophisticated digital rose-
>recognition system,. wave a rose in front of it and thereby bring
>about lots of electrical activity; and perhaps after a while some
>words will appear on a screen -- “rose recognition accomplished” or
>“damn, what a rose!”.-- but no one and nothing has had the
>sensation of having seen anything. And no computer scientist has
>any reason to believe that any computer ever *will* have such a
>sensation, or any other sensation. Granted there is no reason in
>principle why you couldn’t build a machine that shares with the brain
>this remarkable capacity; but there is also no reason to suppose you
>could do it without reproducing the brain itself.”
>
>Incidentally, this quote comes from Gelernter’s book “Machine
>Beauty” where you’ll find the entire first chapter devoted to a
>stunning confirmation of the MOQ. Note his emphasis in the above
>passage on the brain as a *meaning creator.* As wonderful as
>computer technology may be, what can it tell us about the MEANING
>of a computer virus or the MEANING of the information on the
>Internet? Science and technology are concerned with means; the
>MOQ (and most of us) are concerned with meanings. There’s a
>huge, huge difference.
>

Vielen Dank! I'll have to extend a huge thanks to you for posting the
above information. I have often wondered what is the difference between
artificial intelligence and true intellect. Perhaps we can put together
circuits that can remember, integrate and process information (reason), and
respond to stimuli (the three processes of socio-psychological values [i.e.
mind]), but will they still "know" what's going on? I think you finally
gave me the answer. There is a fourth process that my psychology text
didn't mention. Now, what does it mean to create meaning? :-)

Cheers,
Martin

"If you can't find the truth right here where you are,
where else do you think you will find it?" -- Dogen

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