Diana, Platt,Jonathan and Bo:
Let me continue on several threads that each of you has recently posted
regarding DQ and quantum reality. I believe MOQ does provide a superior
underlying structure to reality on which to explain quantum phenomena.
As a starting point, let me take a quote from Diana--
<<"To equate DQ with present experience is to say that DQ is all experience.
This denies the experience of static quality.">>
I don't know. Jonathan recently refeered to "cartographic exercises" which
are like our mental recreations or memories of experience. I think this is
where the static Q experience emerges. Experience is pure value, pure DQ.
Static value is the cartographic output.
We map the patterns emerging from the underlying dynamic interactions. But
without the underlying dynamic there is nothing. For example, higher level
patterns such as communism, QP, and Catholicism emerge from the underlying
dynamic. If you could freeze the underlying dynamic ( the people), then
these emergent static patterns collapse to nothingness.
In the same sense, life is an emergent static pattern arising from inorganic
dynamics. Stop the dynamics, and life ends instantly. At the inoganic
level, matter emerges from the underlying quantum patterns. No underlying
dynamics, no matter.
Physicists believing in SOM have now gotten to the quantum level and they find
'nothing'. No 'thing' can be found . There is nothing left but the dynamic.
This is what has created the reality quandary in physics. They delved so deep
into reality that they went beyond objects and static patterns. They went
beyond their own description of reality. But not beyond the MOQ's
description.
Below are how quantum physicists have attempted to explain reality, along with
why we see no conflict in the MOQ.
1) There is no deep reality. In the Copenhagen interpretation, Bohr
insisted that "There is no quantum world. There is only abstract quantum
description." Heisenberg dismissed any possibility "that new experiments will
lead us back to objective events in time and space."
Clearly, they got beyond the SOM definition of reality. All they were left
with was the underlying dynamic, but they lacked our terminology to define it.
QP doesn't fit within their reality , it fits perfectly in ours.
2)Reality is created by observation. The Copenhagen interpretation also
involves the collapse of the wave function with observation. In MOQ we can
explain this without resorting to Idealism. That with no value doesn't exist.
Value creates the subject and the object. The value interaction is
collapseable into cartographic output.......a map of reality. Since maps and
emergent patterns are reality in SOM, observation seems to have a mystical
reality-creating element . MOQ eliminates the dillemna.
3) Consciousness Creates Reality A stricter definition of #2. Again in MOQ,
we see that consciousness creates the static maps mistaken for reality in SOM.
4)Reality Is Undivided Wholeness I read the Tao of Physics after Lila, but it
is obvious that Pirsig was heavily influenced by Capra, and probably vice
versa. The inseparability of subject and object is a basic standard in MOQ.
This makes no sense in SOM.
5)The Many Worlds Interpretation This is needed to explain how quantum
'things' such as photons are influenced by other potential photons. If all
that exists is 'things', then to explain quantum interference at the single
photon level, they created additional 'things' and additional universes to
interact.
In MOQ, the underlying reality is 'value'. The interference pattern and the
photon are emergent. Both are cartographic output.
In summary, quantum physics took scientists beyond the Subject Object
Metaphysics and their concept of reality. It exposed them to the pure Dynamic
without any emergent patterns to mistake for 'things'. The Metaphysics of
Quality is the solution to their problem.
Be Good All
Roger Parker
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