Donald etc,
> Help me out here, as it seems to me the discussion about dynamic quality
> is getting rather wordy and complex. My limitations, I'm sure. In my
> mind, DQ is simply fresh experience, experience outside of existing
> patterns. Freshness heightens affective responsivity of whatever quality.
> There are all sorts of colorations that affect any fresh
> experiencing--past experiences, concurrent affective states, and the
> quality of presentness in the moment itself.
I'm also feeling a bit overwhelmed, but I don't think it's anything to worry about. Even the most renowned physicists don't understand quantum physics so we're in good company. Be very suspicious of those who claim they do understand it, imo.
I completely agree with your description of DQ as freshness, and whenever I get lost I return to that understanding - because this is the one thing that I am completely sure about.
However if we are to convince the world that the MoQ is better than the SOM then we need to prove that DQ is not subjective, and I mean prove it on their terms, ie "objectively".
Pirsig's point was that this business of liking and disliking things or "freshness" vs "staleness" if you want, is what creates rocks and steel just as much as it creates our own feelings. The only hint that we have that this is more than a fancy idea is the strange behavior of quantum matter so that seems like the best place to look for evidence.
> It's interesting to try to think and write these ideas without sliding
> into the conundrum of the subjective/objective dichotomy. The mixing of
> the Unity and Dichotomy paradigms makes for troubled digestion--bring on
> the pepto bismo!
Yes, it's extremely vexing, however the freshness of the possibility that we might be able to solve The philosophical question of the twentieth century is just too compelling to resist :-)
Diana
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