Glove and Squad,
I apollogise for the lateness of my reply but my have been away on business.
Glen, no apology necessary! i am happy to hear from you and i hope your
business was successful and that the intelligent radioactive ants didnt give
you
too many problems in antartica.
glove wrote:
> Glen, i am unconvinced that there is no discontinuity of matter at the
> macroscopic level. i would say rather that we have learned to ignore the
> discontinuity in everyday static quality reality, and that when quantum
> level physics is explored, we are no longer afforded that luxury. there
are
> interesting ways to see how firmly ingrained our static quality agreements
> with life are.
While I would agree that must be some discontinuity of matter at the
macroscopic
level the discontinuity is in no way as strong as it is at the sub-atomic
level. I have seen no 64 Buick Transmissions simply appearing in my living
room, which should occur if the macroscopic universe were as dicontinous as
the
sub-atomic. It isn't that we learn to ignore this discontinuity it's simply
that statisically it doesn't occur "very" often.
Glen, lets imagine one day you walk into your living room and there is a
transmission from a '64 Buick laying on your living room carpet...what would
occur? the first thing your mind would do is attempt to explain why that
transmission is there. within a split microsecond your perception will have
sorted through hundreds of possibilities why such an event should occur and
will have settled upon 2 or 3 choices.
in other words, you will have made a seemingly discontinuous event...the
occurance
of a '64 Buick transmission in the living room, into a continuous
event...your son billy has decided its too nasty outside to work on his
latest project and felt the living room might be perfect, or your crazy
brother got a deal on that long sought after transmission but spent the rent
money on it and needed a place to hide it from his wife...who knows? the
point is we have enclosed the event and explained it rationally and in doing
so have incorporated it into the continous fabric of our perception by
agreeing with it.
the problem, it seems to me, when we look at quantum level phenomena, is
that we have no way of forming agreements with what it is we are seeing
other than thru mathematical representations. it would be as if we
discovered a 'something' in our living room that had no rational explanation
as to why it suddenly appeared there other than we just happened to notice
it. and that simply doesnt happen in everyday reality.
> someone brought up the fact that we cannot walk thru walls. this is an
> interesting metaphor of the discontinuity of matter that is firmly rooted
in
> SO thinking...i, as subject. cannot walk thru the wall, the object.
> ...
> its no longer a matter of
> being unable to walk thru walls, but merely a matter of finding a Dynamic
> enough way of doing so.
Hmmm... I guess technically you could walk through a wall given "enough
time"
and patience. "Enough Time" would probably exceed the lifetime of several
universes. I don't see this as a problem of perception or the metaphysics
of an
individual. It would a great trick and there may be a way to do it.
Cheers,
Glen
Glen, i do not believe we can assign any function whatsoever to time when we
deal with the concept of Dynamic Quality. it is tempting to assign
simultaneaous-ness to the notion of the relationship of time and DQ but we
must remember it is only an abstract notion of what DQ could be like
time-wise. still, the experimental research that has been done in the
Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox seems to lead in that direction.
Pirsig writes:
"...the price for being Dynamic is instability. Any Dynamic situation is
vunerable to attrition and corruption and even to complete collapse." (Pg.
349)
it seems to me that if the Dynamic is unstable, then static quality
represents stability. furthermore, time is part of that description of
stability, while time has no representation in an unstable Dynamic way
simply because we are not aware of it directly in any way. so for me to
Dynamically walk thru walls will take no-time at all!
best wishes to all
glove
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