Re: MD Re:Proof and the MOQ

From: Lithien (Lithien@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Sun Oct 25 1998 - 12:08:46 GMT


yes, Xcto, i could well foresee the answer to my general question as you did
from reading Lila. but what begs to be answered is the specific question:

What would lead those very young boys to harbor feelings of such complete
destruction against those they knew?

in other words, what intellectual freedom could an 11 and a 13 year old have
to eradicate any social constraint on their part and go ahead with
cold-blooded murder?

when i pose the question in that way then i see the beginning of an answer
in that there must have been very little social instruction in those boys'
environment or at least not strong enough as their intellectual will.

now, the question is this: are these two boys exceptionally gifted with an
icredibly forceful intellect which supercedes any social restraint? or was
the social restraint too weak to supercede their forceful intellect? or was
it perhaps a combination of two equally balanced forces in which an external
incident triggered one of the two (the intellect in this case) to supercede
the other?

do you follow my line of thought?

Lithien
http://members.tripod.com/~lithien/Lila2.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Xcto@aol.com <Xcto@aol.com>
To: moq_discuss@moq.org <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Date: Saturday, October 24, 1998 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: MD Re:Proof and the MOQ

>In a message dated 98-10-23 09:26:09 EDT, Lithien wrote:
>
><< Because Quality is morality. Make no mistake about it. They're
identical.
> And if Quality is the primary reality of the world then that means
morality
> is also the primary reality of the world. The world is primarily a moral
> order.
>
> my problem is this:
>
> why does freedom create violence? (this is the general question)
>
> why would 11 and 13 year old boys ambush their classmates with a cache of
> guns and rifles outside their school? (this is the specific question)
>
> is this what you meant?
> >>
>yes it is, now what needs to be put out into the social domain is a clear
>Quality answer to the problem. I think somewhere along the lines of
freedom
>being an intellectual freedom which tries to supercede the social controls
>that were created to control biology. But then I must add that this will
only
>be one argument of many and it will be then up to the individuals to see it
as
>the most rational.
>
>
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