Re: MD Re:Proof and the MOQ

From: Lithien (Lithien@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Mon Oct 26 1998 - 00:31:27 GMT


kilian:

i guess the reason i thought murder would qualify for the intellectual level
is that biologically we kill to eat, but this was no such thing. murder
seems to be a breaking of the social rule "Thou shall not murder". in other
words, persons who think themselves above the law and do not hesitate in
disregarding the social mores against it. like Crime and Punishment, for
instance.

have you read the novel?

Lithien

http://members.tripod.com/~lithien/Lila2.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Kilian Betlach <Betlach@bc.edu>
To: moq_discuss@moq.org <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: MD Re:Proof and the MOQ

>Hi Lithien:
>
>> what confused me was that i thought their planning out an ambush would
>> qualify as strategy which would be in the intellect province.
>>
>> what do you think?
>>
>
>This is a hard question to answer, because it calls into question, (to a
>certain extent) the nature of the human condition. Do humans have
>instincts? If so, are they violent ones, as Freud contended? Most
>predatory animals have the capacity to set up "ambushes" through
>stalking of prey etc., but I doubt few would argue that animals are
>capable of realzing the "intelectual" level of SQ. I suppose I would
>say that the driving force, the inspiration so to speak, behind the
>action existed on the biological level, but that the means with which it
>was carried out were contained within the intellectual sphere. Can an
>action exist on one or more levels simultaneously? Or can such an
>activity, when disected, contain more than one level? Common sense says
>"yes" but I'm not sure what this metaphysics would say.
>
>
>Kilian
>
>
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