hello everyone,
Donny, i am glad we are in agreement on many issues. on 11/2/98,
Donny wrote:
For one thing: While the Victorian-Edwardian
society was distributed by heridetary Honor, our society is divided-up and
distributed along class lines based on "intellegence" -- it's been
blue-collor/white-collor; today it's knowledge-worker/laborer. There's
been a lot of writting lately about how we're creating an "intellectual
elete" as the ruling class of our global village.
Donny, it seems to me that it all boils down to freedom. the social level
sets the rules and not the intellect level, which values freedom from the
social level rules. i am somewhat puzzled as to what "global village" you
are referring to. perhaps you could elaborate when you have the time.
i am not at all sure our society is divided up along class lines based on
intelligence. on the surface it may seem so, but there is much more at work
that is unseen until you probe a bit.
i would refer you to a wonderful paper on Doug Renselles Quantonics website
(if anyone is unfamilar with Dougs site they are missing something special)
dealing with a study done on highly intelligent people from childhood into
their adult lives. its called the Prometheus Society reveiw and its one of
the links on the top of The Prodigy book review page. if you havent read it
yet, check it out. things are not as clear cut as we would like them to be.
Donny wrote:
But here's my point: While the Int. level values objectivity and
the independence of Truth from social class, this is really an *ideal* --
It's a statment of promise like the boy scout moto; not a report about
some facts of the world.
Donny, i think that the social level is like a guardian for the intellect.
that is
precisely why social values are so very important. the intellect doesnt care
how it obtains freedom and disaster may result unless it is constrained by a
set of social rules. at the same time, if the social level turns into a
guard instead of a guardian, then disaster may well result as well. there is
a balance needed between unlimited freedom and tyranny. a gentle guardian
will guide the way, while the guard will use force.
Donny wrote:
The Int. level can never be trully free of the
social level because it grows out of this. Objectivity and the scientific
proof are valued only so long as we live in a society which supports these
views. If that society should cromble, should fall back into something
like the Victorian world... by-by IntPoVs. Joseph McCarthy's communist
witch-hunts from America's 50s was such a laps.
Donny, you are right, the intellect can never be free of the social level.
that is why we strive to teach our children to grow up and be socially Good
in
whatever they should chose to do intellectually. in my opinion, the McCarthy
era was an example of turning the guardian, the social level, into a tyrant.
i dont see this so much as a lapse but as an ever reccurring danger when any
level remains in any perceived exclusive stasis.
best wishes to all,
glove
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