RISKYBIZ9@aol.com wrote:
> Roger Jumps In On Maggies Observation on Mind/Matter
>
> Maggie Writes:
>
> <<<< the problem is this statement:
> "Mind is contained in static inorganic patterns.
> Matter is contained in static intellectual patterns."
> I have wondered whether this statement is backwards.
> Shouldn't it be:
> "Matter is contained in static inorganic patterns.
> Mind is contained in static intellectual patterns."
> At some point, I scribbled an answer, "No, this shows the
> inter-connectedness," but right now I can't see it.
> >>>>
>
> Roger Responds:
>
> I find this as one of his most illuminating statements. Mind is connected to
> the inorganic patterns that form our brain, and what we call matter is an
> intellectual pattern. All is intellectual, yet all is materialistic.
>
Thanks. I lost sight of it. You gave it back to me.
>
> Today I was thumbing through my decomposingly over-read copy of Lila and I saw
> a related statement....
>
> >>>>>...there is no substance anywhere in the world nor has there ever
> been.>>>>
>
All the great waves of new philosophies, even such "sensing" revolutions as the
scientific revolution, are the result of a new intellectual pattern recreating the
world, recreating the matter and rebuilding the social patterns that provide the
action. It is when the social patterns are reformed that the world takes notice,
and after those social patterns have reformed that a new set of "facts" has been
discovered. And new substance exists that did not exist before.
But, as you pointed out, it really (did/did not) exist before that time.
>
> I continue to be surprised by the comments by Lila Squaders that seem to give
> special credence to the materialistic, inorganic level. All is intellectual,
> all is inorganic, all is social, all is biological........ All is VALUE.
> I also continue to be amazed by people not seeing the brilliance of the levels
For me, it is the clues to internal structure MoQ provides that seem incredibly
fruitful. It is that invisible social level that seems to me to be a turning
point, the mechanism on which all else turns. This is where we live, yet we
"think" we live in our minds (conscious intellect) or our bodies, and have this
huge black hole of non-recognition.
> Knowing what Pirsig has taught us may not change whether we turn
> right or left at the next stop sign, but it sure makes the stop sign and the
> action shine with Quality.
>
Thanks, Roger
Maggie
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