RE: MD Zen, DQ, and Cosmotheism. Yes, but Scientific Pantheism!

From: Paul Vogel (nitzke@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Mar 01 1999 - 23:12:09 GMT


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>From: "Struan Hellier" <struan@shellier.freeserve.co.uk>
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>Greetings Struan!

You said,
>
>One has to be slightly careful as the term cosmotheist originally meant
a=
>lmost the same as pantheist...

How true, but how very arrogant of you, Struan, to presume context!!!

You, Struan, continue thus,

>and so someone with no sense of context might legitimately claim it to
be=
> innocent enough.

You are the one who doesnt understand context, Struan, in particular,
how Cosmotheism relates to Pirsigs MOQ, which is why I brought it up in
the first place!

Is this the Lila Squad, or is this the PC or Kosher squad, Struan, that
determines context!_

 However,
>since nobody in the modern world referred to themselves as a
cosmotheist =
>before Pierce

You are just wrong Struan, and being a Cosmotheist and Cosmotheism, go
way back before Dr. Robert L. Pierce! Just check out a older dictionary,
say before WWII, and it explains, or defines, what Cosmotheism is, for
the real morons out there, such as yourself!

and nobody
>(sensible) who didn't share his intent has since Pierce, I suggest it
is =
>fair to assume that either
>Paul doesn't have a functioning brain, or he shares the racist,
radically=
> violent pre-millenarian
>eschatology illuminated in the following article.

Sorry, wrong on all counts, Struan!

 The bibliography should=
> be sufficient to lead
>people with an interest to both primary sources and critiques from
which,=
> I'm sure, we can all make
>up our own minds.

I am aware of this hatchet job article, Struan, and those others that
are biased references which have purposely lied, in order to keep their
pathetic jobs! I would be glad to answer these charges, and each of the
lies, given out in the article, as I am sure Dr. Pierce himself would,
if these liars had a ounce of Dignity and Fair Play, for even the Devil
himself should get his due, and day in court!

>
>From Nova Religio:
>
>PIERCE AND THE COSMOTHEIST WORLDVIEW
>
>The Turner Diaries is the first and better known of two novels written
by=
> William Pierce, a figure
>generally viewed as an intellectual leader of the American far right.

Lie number one! Pierce is not a rightest or leftist!

 Hav=
>ing sold nearly 200,000
>copies,<6> Turner has been remarkably well-received for a book with an
ob=
>vious fringe theme. The
>futuristic story unfolds in the 1990s and recounts the experiences of
Ear=
>l Turner, a leader of an
>underground guerrilla force (the Organization) that engages in a
campaign=
> of terrorism against a
>Jewish-controlled American government. Turner's group of devoted
revoluti=
>onaries succeeds in
>carrying out a series of sabotage operations, bombings, and
assassination=
>s which result in the
>occurrence of an all-out race war and the eventual violent dissolution
of=
> the central government.
>
>The novel concludes with an apocalyptic vision of the future in which
the=
> Organization, having
>established a separate 'white territory' in California, initiates a
globa=
>l nuclear war.

Lie number two! In the novel government forces attack California!

 The nuclear
>strikes carry strange symbolic connotations, both for their timing and
fo=
>r their intended
>consequences. Undertaken in the late 1990s, the worldwide nuclear
apocaly=
>pse occurs just prior to
>the arrival of the new millennium, the dawn of a pristine era promising
g=
>lory and fulfillment for
>the Organization and its racial kinsmen.

Lie number 3. The millennium has no bearing on Cosmotheism, only for
Judeo Christians.

 Equally chiliastic is the totali=
>ty of destruction wrought
>by the weapons themselves and the metaphorical 'cleansing' effect they
se=
>em to possess. By
>unleashing the forces of mass destruction against its enemies, the
terror=
>ists erase from the face of
>the earth the impure 'alien hordes' who have long impeded the evolution
o=
>f a new species'the
>rejuvenated white race.<7>

Lie number 4. Bio Diversity is the key to Evolution of Human Species!
>
>The millennial subcurrents of Turner convey a deeper message than that
wh=
>ich is often associated
>with the book. While Pierce intended for this fictional work to promote
t=
>he ideas of his racialist
>organization (the National Alliance) to a wider readership, Turner also
r=
>eflects the author's
>observance of a belief system steeped in conceptions of ultimate
things.<=

>8> Strangely, this central
>feature of Pierce's worldview has gone essentially unnoticed despite
his =
>occasional statements and
>writings suggesting his adherence to a divine cosmology.
>
>Pierce's gravitation toward extremism appears to have begun during his
da=
>ys at Oregon State
>University in the early 1960s. While employed there as an assistant
profe=
>ssor of physics (1962-65),
>Pierce became increasingly preoccupied with what he saw as the 'racial
er=
>osion' of American
>society.<9> Convinced that the university environment fostered a
'politic=
>ally correct atmosphere'

Lie number 5. Pierce is hardly the only one to see this!

>which prevented an honest dialogue on race from taking place, Pierce
gave=
> up on an academic career
>and shortly thereafter immersed himself completely in a quest for
radical=
> solutions to America's
>'race problem.'<10>
>
>Following a short association with George Lincoln Rockwell's American
Naz=
>i Party (ANP) in Arlington,
>Virginia, Pierce continued his work as a racial activist with a number
of=
> ANP successor
>organizations. By 1974, after having worked in high-ranking positions
for=
> a number of groups in the
>neo-Nazi orbit, he founded the National Alliance, an Arlington-based
grou=
>p devoted to promoting the
>progress of the white race.<11> In 1985, Pierce relocated his
organizatio=
>nal headquarters to a
>300-acre property in a remote portion of southeastern West Virginia. At
t=
>his site, Pierce and a few
>members of his group run the organization's day-to-day operations,
which =
>involve the printing and
>distribution of racial separatist propaganda through the National
Allianc=
>e's literature-selling arm,
>National Vanguard Books.
>
>From the time of its inception, the National Alliance has separated
itsel=
>f from other neo-Nazi
>groups by its adoption of a distinctive and highly literate
organizationa=
>l rhetoric and a guiding
>philosophy that invokes sacred themes. Although the disparate ranks of
th=
>e American neo-Nazi circle
>have commonly shared ideals loosely based on 'Blood and Soil' mythology
a=
>nd Nordic lore, this
>general movement has tended to be more ideological than spiritual. In
mar=
>ked contrast to these
>'Hitler cults' which emerged in the wake of the post-Rockwell Nazi
moveme=
>nt, Pierce's National
>Alliance sought to establish itself as a community of the Elect
galvanize=
>d by a common belief in
>racial destiny and the Aryan path to godhood.

Lie number 6. Not Destiny, just possibility, open to all races!

>
>In order to understand Pierce's millenarian worldview, it is necessary
br=
>iefly to explore the
>racially rooted theology upon which his organization is based. This
philo=
>sophy, which Pierce calls
>'Cosmotheism,'

Lie number 7. Racialism is not fundamental to Cosmotheism!

 resonates in his literary work, particularly in Turner, an=
>d provides adherents with a
>totalistic logic explaining the order of the universe.<12> Blending
Darwi=
>nian evolutionary theory
>with ideas from ancient Teutonic legend, Cosmotheism synthesizes the
scie=
>ntific with the mystical in
>its construction of reality.

Lie number 8. Mystical has nothing to do with it! Reality only!

 While the empirical and otherworldly compone=
>nts of this belief system
>might initially appear incompatible, in a strange sense each reinforces
t=
>he other in an
>all-encompassing concept for human evolutionary development.<13>
>
>Pierce perceives the world in terms of separate, biologically
differentia=
>ted evolutions of racial
>groups. Reflecting strong traces of the theories of scientific racism
he =
>read while at Oregon State
>University,<14> Pierce's conception of racial progress would seem, at
fir=
>st glance, to be merely an
>extension of the early twentieth century's 'racial anthropology'
literatu=
>re. Here it is important to
>see that Pierce's system of thought diverges significantly from the
purel=
>y scientific structure
>adopted by early racial theorists.

In the Cosmotheist thoughtworld, evolu=
>tion takes on a spiritual
>meaning as mankind follows predetermined courses of racial destiny.

Lie number 9. Not pre determined. Just a possible Destiny.

 Pierc=
>e has described this
>process as an 'upward path' with its end point leading to the goal of
'on=
>eness with the
>Creator.'<15> This ultimate Cosmotheist objective, the white race's
reali=
>zation of godhood, is
>viewed as a genetically wired certainty.

Lie number 10. This is the path of all life. There is no certainty!

 According to Pierce, who has lec=
>tured on the subject to
>small gatherings of National Alliance members, the race's 'divine
spark' =
>has propelled it to
>greatness throughout history and separates it from all other forms of
lif=
>e.<16>
>
>The concept of a unique Aryan path to godhood has parallels with the
'sec=
>ret wisdom' beliefs found
>in ancient Gnosticism.

Lie number 11. This is getting silly. Too many lies to counter, but
every life form has its own unique destiny to follow, and Gnosticism
has nothing to do with the perfection of man, but evolving from man to
ever higher states of being and consciousness.

I could continue to counter these lies, off line, to any interested
party, since doing so here is throwing sugar onto the dung of slander,
and I wont waste any more time here.

Best regards,

Paul.

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