Re: MD Responsibility of Cosmotheistīs Worldwide

From: Paul Vogel (nitzke@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Mar 05 1999 - 22:58:18 GMT


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>Dear Kevin,

You said:
>
>Many philosophers and politicians will use many terms to label "social
>quality." One of these is collective responsibility. In Lila, one may
>search in vain to find many moral labels. But if we examine the
concepts,
>not much remains absent on an axiological level.
>
> I. Moral Duty
>Pirsig implicity invokes the concept of moral duty. He wrestles with
>himself on the morality of several subjects - copulating with Lila,
leaving
>Lila with Rigel, selling movie rights, etc. In these situations, Pirsig
>questioned his moral duty to Quality. Indeed, he states:
>-"Not just life, but everything, is an ethical activity." - (p181)
>-"In general, given a choice of two courses to follow and all other
things
>being equal, that choice which is more Dynamic, that is, at a higher
level
>of evolution, is more moral." - (p183)
>-On pages 187-9, Pirsig speaks of our "moral codes." Intellectual
morality
>trumphs social morality, social morality trumphs biological morality,
and
>so on.
>-"Quality is morality. Make no mistake about it. They're identical. And
if
>Quality is the primary reality of the world then that means morality is
>also the primary reality of the world. The world is primarily a moral
>order. But it's a moral order that neither Rigel nor the posing
Victorians
>had ever, in their wildest dreams, though about or heard about." -
(p111)
>
> II. Collective Responsibility
>The mention of Victorians moves us to the concepts of "social quality"
and
>collective responsibility. Pirsig's stance is both profound and clear:
its
>the moral responsibility of society to cage our destructive biological
>impulses such as aggression and ignorance. But its also society's moral
>responsibility to not attempt to cage intellectual thoughts. We have a
>collective responsibility to stop crime and also a collective
>responsibility to advocate the First Amendment. These are not the words
of
>an existentialist loner. Indeed he indicts the 60s generation for
accepting
>criminal activity and for rejecting social control. (Page 348-9,51.) To
>Pirsig, this is immoral because social quality ought to contain
biological
>quality. It is indeed our collective responsibility. Pirsig identifies
the
>failure to do so as the root problem of the 20th century. We must,
Pirisig
>writes emphatically, "destroy destructive biological patterns with
complete
>moral ruthlessness, the way a doctor destroys germs, before these
>biological patterns destroy civilization itself." - (p358)
>
>If that isn't a collective call to responsibility, I have never heard
one.

Excellent! This is very Cosmotheist, of Robert M. Pirsig, and what
responsibility to Civilization, we have, is made quite clear in that
statement " to destroy germs " before they destroy Civilization
itself!!!

Best regards,

Paul.
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> Sincerely,
> Kevin Sanchez
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