David Buchanan wrote:
>
> (Bob Wallace sure made a mess of things in today's post, putting
> government at the biological level, economics at the inorganic level,
> putting society over the intellect and all the while providing twisted
> political analysis and tortured historical facts. T'was about the
> ugliest thing I've seen here.)
>
Bob replies:
*Sigh*
Economics is not at the inorganic level. It is at the societal. What I
said is that most economists attempt to paste the inorganic laws of math
and physics on top of economics. It'll never work. Pirisg wrote about
the same thing in "Lila" when he talked about anthropologists doing the
same thing...pasting physics and math on top of anthropology. That is
what I said. Economics is based on people's values. The only economics
school that believes this is the "Austrian" school.
The one thing that government cannot exist without is coercion, the
threat of violence and prison and force. As Mao so accurately noted,
"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."
Hitler, Mao, Castro, Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot all gained control of their
governments. They did not stand on soapboxes and persuade people to
commit mass murder.
Since government is based on coercion, it automatically falls in the
biological level. Actually it is the interface between society and
biology. And because it is coercive, it is extremely dangerous...as
exemplified by the mass murderers I just named.
Almost all States got their start by one tribe conquering another and
setting themselves up as rulers (royalty) who exacted tribute (taxes).
Since they provided no law for the people, people turned to the most
trusted to settle their disputes...usually clergymen. In this way law
slowly got its start.
Because of this, States and law are totally different things. States are
biological patterns, law is a societal pattern.
The three basic laws discovered are for protection of life, liberty and
property. If everyone followed those laws there would be no crime...no
murder, no slavery, no theft, no battery, no rape. If States followed
these laws there would be no war, no genocide...95 percent of the
problems in the world would cease to exist.
Intellect is above society. How free can intellect be when it is under
government control?
Every special interest group in the world is attempting to gain control
of the State to force their values on others. Fundamentalists want to
gain control to outlaw abortion, have mandatory prayer in schools, and
teach creationism. Others want to outlaw their competition to protect
their wealth. Whoever they are, it is always about using the threat of
violence to force their values on others.
Since the State is strictly biological it is utterly, absolutely
inferior to society. And when it expands, it reaches up and devours law
and society. Biological values reappear.
As best as I can figure, States have killed 200 million people in the
last 100 years.
And this is the ugliest thing you have ever read here?
Hm....
Bob
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