Re: MD Fw: Pirsig's present.

From: Carmen Flynn (theflynn@dynamo.com.ar)
Date: Sun May 30 1999 - 00:19:39 BST


Hola Clark and Squad,
Sorry to jump in this late in the discussion, but reading late your post
grabbed my attention and I wanted to drop a few lines about it. You sound like
you feel you are alone in the way you understand the MoQ. At least from what I
can read from this particular post. Let me tell you that I am 100% in agreement
about your view about the Universe, the human race and the sequence they both
came to 'exist'. It brought back some painful memories, but that's o.k.;
because I am completely cured now. When I was around four or five years old, I
was lucky enough to have the company of my great-grandmother. We spent four
years together, she passed away when I was eight. She was half indian / half
european and she taught me a lot of things. During that same time I was going
to Sunday School and they were teaching me about the same things but from a
different point of view. The two views or explanation were different, but there
was a lot of overlap. During those four years it was nice to come back to
grandma to double check whatever I was being taught at school, mainly with
regards to Religion. I believe both explanations so dearly, it was all sacred
to me. But something happened to me that 'shock me'. That event ( a very bad
one) shook the foundations of my 'beliefs'. I was not able to tell anyone. I
just thought 'it was my fault'. Somehow I had provoked that horrible incident.
Grandma die and I was unable to tell her, and there was no one to share it
with. It was not until I was 15 years old, seven horrible years of guilt that
I was able to talk about it to someone. This person was a Nun at the local
Catholic school ( who later deserted her habits and became a 'civilian'). But
still, I did not know what to 'believe'. I was torn between two worlds, kept
searching and searching for answers.
I remember the first time I saw the cover of the book 'Zen and the art of
motorcycle maintenance'. It had very bright colors, and what a peculiar title
that was, for a Senior English class. Once I started reading it, I could not
stop. That book brought me out of the Darkness. That book told me what no body
else had been able to tell me, almost in a whisper....it didn't have all the
answers, we know that because the whole Metaphysics is better explained with
Lila. Now, I convinced that 'Lila', searched me and found 'me' in 1992.
My point is, in case you are lost (or anyone else for that matter), is that, it
is not easy to 'shake' your system of 'beliefs'. [It is hard to express myself,
but I will try ( and please if anyone 'understand me' please just say so, it
will mean the world to me).] : For a lot of people, to change their 'believe
system' is 'unthinkable'. They are just as happy as a Clam in the Sunlight with
whatever they happen to believe in, and say: 'please don't bug me with your
deep philosophical views', they don't have to tell you they are bored to tears,
you can just ready in their eyes.
I am with you Clark, and I am sure from what I have read and keep on reading at
this web site; that a lot of the members in this group are 'with you'. But, I
think their level of understanding is directly proportional to the degree over
which they 'strayed away' (bent away from? Remember, English is not my first
language) from their original 'beliefs'. And, that is O.K. The MoQ has room for
everything, it even includes those who don't believe or 'see' the MoQ as we at
the MoQ organization do. It also allows for different degrees of understanding.
Speaking for myself, I am pretty much stuck with the 'five moral codes'. But,
half the fun is getting there. Don't you think?
Cheers everyone,
Carmen.

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