hi all,
Glove wrote:
> > The universe didn't begin billions of years ago... it began when we each
> > became aware of it. And it will not end in billions of years as it
>expands
> > into plasma streams or collapses back on itself... it will end when each
>of
> > us as individuals die. That is the beginning and ending of Quality as we
> > understand it to be. That is the beginning and ending of the universe.
>And
> > to my understanding, the MOQ states the same.
Platt agrees thus:
>That’s my understanding, too. I'm thinking of having written on my
>tombstone, “Mine was the only world."
>
>I think Glove's statement might well be used as the first principle of the
>MOQ. If we can't agree on that, we may be just using the MOQ to support
>our own preconceived moral patterns or philosophical worldviews.
With all due respect, guys, I think that Glove's statement is really quite
strikingly incompatible with the MOQ. What you seem to be doing is giving
the status of primary reality to the individual self, ending with an
ego-centric view of Quality. Let's not flatter ourselves. This is just what
Phaedrus despised. Reality, or Quality, is NOT dependent on a subject for
it's existence. Subjects, and the objects I think you implicitly deny, are
dependent on Quality for THEIR existence, "revolving around the sun of
Quality", so to speak.
Epistemologically you may never prove to yourselves that the outside world
exists, but the framework of ontological understanding known as the MOQ has
as an essential foundation an "objective" evolution of Quality - beginning
with matter (sun/earth), forming bodies and societies and the (Imperfect)
representations of the aforementioned as conceived by individual intellects.
The beauty of his work is that these realities are themselves Value.
What is consciousness? We must explain it within the MOQ.
rich
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