Bo,Platt,Roger,MD
CURTIS
Now I wish to ask everyone this question: If 'intellect' is the
category with most freedom, what is going to come after it?
BO
Exactly!! Intellect isn't thinking ('mind' of SOM), consciousness or
awareness, but awareness of objectivity .....as contrasted to
subjectivity
PLATT
How do you describe Quality without using words? Logically you
can't. Quality transcends logic, reason and words.
DAVE
"So we see that (Quality) is not the outcome on an intellectual process in
which one idea follows another in sequence finally to terminate in conclusion
or judgement. There is neither process nor judgement in (Quality), it is
something more fundamental, something which make judgement possible, and
without which no form of judgement can take place. In judgement there are
subject and predicate; in (Quality) subject is predicate, and predicate is
subject: they are merged as one, but not as one of which something can be
stated, but as one from which arises judgement. We cannot go beyond this
absolute oneness; all the intellectural operations stop here; when they
endeavour to go further, the draw a circle in which they for ever repeat
themselves. This is the wall against which all philosophies have beaten in vain."
This was published in 1927 by D.T. Suzuki with Quality substituted in brackets
for what term? RMP seems to restate this below in fewer words.
PIRSIG:
Quality doesn’t have to be defined. You understand it without
definition, ahead of definition. Quality is direct experience
independent of and prior to intellectual abstractions. (LILA, Chap. 5)
Suzuki then goes on to explain how to go beyond intellect;
"This region of darkness, however, gives up its secrets when attacked by the
will, by the force of one's entire personality. (Quality) is the illuminating
of this dark region, when the whole thing is seen at one glance, and all
intellectural inquiries find their rationale."
The more I read of Suzuki's work the more it seems that Pirsig's continues on
in a very similar vein.
Ver r r r r ry interesting.
Dave
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