jc wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, David Lind wrote:
>
> > Couple more thoughts.....
> >
> > John Beasley wrote: "show me a sure road to enlightenment"
>
> > This would, in my opinion, be trying to attach a static pattern to
> > the dynamic. There are no "sure" ways to enlightenment.
>
> But don't most of yer average guru types that actually claim to have
> enlightenment, don't they say that once you've attained it, your
> basicially standing in the same place you were before - but now you're no
> longer seeking some destination down the road, but are fully alive in the
> now? A satorical slap upside the head, as it were and "It was so simple
> and right in front of me all along."
>
> > The very
> > fact that the dynamic is constantly in motion precludes one "sure" way
> > to getting there. Even Zen Masters do not have "a" way to "the" way.
> > There are numerous koans because every student is different.
>
> Right, but the destination is the same, right? So perhaps the multitude
> of koans and paths that lead outward finally show the way when you
> perceive the pattern. Then what? What yet do I lack then to enter the
> state of nirvana?
>
> jc
>
David Lind writes:
Excellent points (and questions). I fell into a very easy trap.
Labelling the dynamic as "there." It's not a destination, so - yes,
when people reach enlightenment - they haven't gotten anywhere -
they've just finally gotten to see where they really are. It's about
seeing the static filters so that you are able to see the dynamic that
surrounds us, permeates us, envelops us.
the koans don't necessarily lead outward (in my opinion) they just
assist the student in stripping away the static so that they can see
the dynamic.
So, what are you lacking? I don't know. Do you still see nirvana as
a place to get to? As long as we look for "it" being a place to get
to, we are stuck in a static pattern called "life as we know it" (and
"life as our society tells is real or right"). Live each moment for
itself. Catch yourself when you're not. (i.e. how many times are you
not really driving when you're going down the road? most people I
know are doing anything but driving as they drive. They are thinking
about the meeting they are going to, or worried that they are going to
be late, or thinking about what they'd rather be doing)
That's all for now
Shalom
David Lind
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