Re: MD Moral Compass

From: Dan Glover (glove@indianvalley.com)
Date: Fri Nov 12 1999 - 05:04:07 GMT


Hello everyone

David Lind wrote:
>
> Dan Glover wrote:
> > It seems to me that since Pirsig's MOQ states that Universe is
> > fundamentally moral and value-centered
> > there is no need for justification. Must we continually justify our
> > moral actions when all actions are moral?
>
> Ummm...I don't remember Pirsig saying that all actions are moral.
> "In general, given a choice of two courses to follow and all other
> things being equal. that choice which is more dynamic, that is, at a
> higher level of evolution is more moral." (hoping this quote is
> accurate....borrowed it from someone else's post)
>
> My understanding doesn't equate Pirig's quote with "all actions are
> moral" there are some actions that are more moral than others.

Hi David

Pirsig writes: "That's why Phædrus got such a weary feeling from all
this. All the way back to the beginning. That's where he had to go.
Because Quality IS morality. Make no mistake about it. They're
IDENTICAL. And if Quality is the primary reality of the world then that
means morality is also the primary reality of the world. The world is
primarily a moral order." (Lila, Chap. 7)

If morality is our primary reality, why do we have to justify morality?
That is my question. I agree that some actions are of morally higher
value than others, to be sure. Still, since Quality is of primary
reality in Pirsig's MOQ, and this world is primarily a moral order, all
actions are primarily moral actions in need of no justification.

In my own words, Pirsig's MOQ states that of two courses of action, all
things being equal, Dynamic action is always morally superior. Yet
Dynamic Quality cannot be defined and consequently justified until 'it'
is turned into a static quality pattern of value. Therefore it seems to
me that to attempt justification of morality is a fools errand, a wild
goose chase. There is no need of justification of morals in morally
centered Universe.

Best wishes

Dan

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