xcto: I've been enjoying your posts, but you've lost me here. DMB
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Xcto@aol.com [SMTP:Xcto@aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 12:15 AM
> To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> Subject: Re: MD Slaying the dragon. Money is not the basic Social
> unit.
>
>
> The only point I would like to say is that our dreams do NOT create
> the basis
> of our dreams and legends. It is actually the otherway around. Our
> myths
> create our dreams, our dynamic mythos. I think the MOQ actually
> supports the
> idea that "man does not make God, but God makes men [what they are]".
> I'm
> not trying to support any particular religious idea, but more of
> taking the
> ideas of Campbell and others leads me to believe in the power of the
> mythos.
> Reread the rest of this post and maybe you will see the mythos
> creating man a
> bit more.
>
>
> I believe the mythos is the most basic foundation of the Social Level.
> The
> mythos is the cultural riverbed that our waters flow through and it's
> static
> nature determines many boundaries in which we can dynamically change
> without
> creating chaos for ourselves. The most important part though, is how
> our
> Intellect resides in this Social level in such a way that is controls
> it but
> is dependent on it; the dynamic part of the Intellect could not
> survive
> without the Social level's stability (Maslow).
>
> But these pre-historical myths do not tell us the Moral Laws which the
> social
> level demands, the 'Thou Shalts' (as in Thou Shalt Not Kill) I guess
> you
> would say. When you think about it, I guess you must say that the
> 'Thou
> Shalts' are the static Intellectual representations of the Moral Laws
> which
> the Social level has taken as its Principles (the basic unit of my
> Intellectual Level (MOxcto until more people agree with me)). Thus,
> the
> Moral Laws do not change the mythos, but are created by a social group
> and
> creates a different myth that is a contains the shared mythos plus a
> series
> of laws and culture that are special to that group.
>
> Now of course, this directly attacks many people's idea of the
> Social/Intellectual relationship, but this is as good as a time to
> argue it
> out as any.
>
> The point here is to show that the Giant is really the creation of a
> social
> groups myth, specifically western civilization. The Giant's ability
> to
> gather power is it's most important reason that it is so predominant
> today.
> Money is a unit of value, but to me the Social Level's basic unit is
> power
> (Control). Control of property, instinct, desire, people, ideas.
> These are
> the static activites of the Social level. Today, money is obvious the
>
> quickest way to power, but the Celebrity factor shows you don't mean
> money to
> have Control(though money often is the result of celebrity control).
>
>
> What do you say of my ideas?
>
> xcto
>
>
>
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