Hettinger (hettingr@iglou.com)
Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:04:33 +0100
Doug Renselle wrote:
> Hettinger wrote: <snip>
>
>> Back to the levels. Here is what I think I think:
>>
>> Inorganic
>>
>> Inorganic patterns of value are matter, energy, physical and
>> chemical
>> reactions. Loose energy, ie radiant or somesuch freed energy might
>> have once
>> been DQ at the time when the inorganic level was all that existed.
>> Change,
>> within the inorganic level, is accomplished how? [My ignorance is
>> showing.
>> I've been skimming your discussions on this with interest, if
>> without much
>> comprehension. Your writing is good, but my brain is slow, and
>> there's not
>> enough time to digest thoroughly! I need to go back to Lila, as
>> well.]
>>
>
> Maggie,
>
> <snip>
> Allow me to take your first level 'definition' and extend it a bit,
> for the patterns of probability which the great author showed us for
> the first time in SODV:
>
> <Doug: Since TLS says there is no separate quantum level, we need to
> add patterns of probability to the inorganic level. Note that this
> forces the inorganic level to inhere atoms and everything which
> composes atoms. Two simple classifications which compose the
> microworld are fermions and bosons. :Doug>
>
> <Doug: Fermions and bosons are classes of quantum systems. All
> substance and thus all of the inorganic level of static patterns of
> value inheres fermionic and bosonic quantum system patterns. Fermions
> are the matter, and bosons are the
> glue-connection-force-radiation-interrelationships among the
> fermions. All atomic and sub-atomic patterns fall into one of the two
> categories: fermion, and boson. Fermions have measurable mass, e.g.,
> electron (m = 1), and proton (m = 1836), etc. Bosons have zero mass,
> e.g., photon (m = 0), graviton (m = 0), etc. :Doug>
>
> <Doug: Fermionic patterns obey the Pauli exclusion principle. They
> are un-neighborly. Only one or two fermions can occupy one
> ‘mass-location’ at a time. The equivalent physicist-speak says that
> only one or two fermions can be in a given quantum state at one time.
> That is how matter is built. None of our metaphysical MoQ static
> object patterns of value could exist as we know them if fermions could
> all be in the same mass location at the same time. :Doug>
>
> <Doug: Bosonic patterns do not obey the Pauli exclusion principle.
> They are gregarious. The physicists say that any number of bosons can
> be in a given quantum state at one time. Bosonic patterns make
> superconductivity, superfluidity, atom lasers, and probably our
> consciousness possible. :Doug>
>
> What I have shown above, IMhO adds to what Maggie said about the
> 'inorganic' level 'definition.'
>
> I will try to do the same thing from my perspective on each of the
> levels. I need to spread the effort out over a few days, however.
>
>
>
> Doug Renselle.
I wondered if you had time to lay out that perspective on any other
levels. I'd really like to see it.
Thanks!
Maggie
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