Gene Kofman (its@icanect.net)
Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:00:31 +0100
Magnus wrote:
>Bo thinks that intellect is built upon the society we live in.
>You, Platt, thinks that intellect is built directly upon our organic
>pattern bodies.
>And I think our intellect is built upon our social pattern bodies.
>
>Did I forget anyone?
I think, the intellectual patterns are built upon the individual sets of
social patterns, and are possible and supported by the individual sets of
bio patterns.
>I was saying no to the first part, the one about the organic level being
equal to life.
I know, and I used your No to say that societies and ideas are not
biological. just tried to ;-).
>So, if a vulcano suddenly erupted and very rare circumstances
>occurred that spontaneously created an exactly identical robot,
>would that robot be inorganic? organic? social? What's the
>difference between the robots?
If that robot is identical to the one created by humans then the patterns
reproduced by such a rare circumstances are still the same: inorganic, bio,
social and intellectual. Humans could only imbed patterns known to them
into their creation.
>But that's exactly what each QE is doing, putting the subject as the
observer and the object as >the observed.
I'm just used to subject to be a bearer of some intellectual patterns. In
that case, if only a subject can be an observer then there would not be any
QE before the intellectual patterns were developed, which we agreed is not
true. So, if two sub atomic particles collided and there was no scientist
to register the collision, was there still a quality event? If we agree
that QE still happened and that subject does not have to be intelligent,
then which of two particles is a subject? Of course, it's all just a matter
of terminology, each particle can imagine itself to be a subject, and for
us scientists they both are just a 'dust in the wind' and we are the real
subjects.
I'm afraid, I'm missing a lot of postings lately, due to problems with my
email server. so forgive me if my postings are out of sync. I'm changing my
address.
Gene.
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