LS Re: Sv: Sv: AI and MoQ


Anders Nielsen (joshu@diku.dk)
Fri, 17 Oct 1997 03:34:46 +0100


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> It seems that you think that for example quantum flux will be understood
> one day and we will ba able to predict it accurately. I hope so too, and
> I think it also, but I also think that a full understanding of quantum
> flux will not enable us to predict everything. I think we will always
have
> some domain left that we don't understand.

no,no .. Im with Bohr:

Quantum flux will never be understood. (I'll just speak in bumper-sticker
lines, alright? :-))

But I think that for something to strive towards Dynamic Quality, a choice
or decision has to be made. That also is why I feel that only sentient
beings can percieve quality.

> This domain that we don't understand, I call DQ. It might sound
> outrageous to move this border as we go along, it's supposed to be
> the first and absolute split of Quality, of everything. But I see no
> other way.

that's fair enough...DQ seems to be everything in the world that isn't SQ,
and as more and more become SQ, the DQ boundaries have to move along...

> You also think that only sentient beings can percieve DQ, but that
> brings up the mind-matter SOM platypus, (Hey Bo! My turn to preach :).
> What in sentient beings enables them to percieve DQ? They consist of
> nothing but non-sentient parts. I think it has to come from "beneath".

What is in sentient beings that put them apart from a big pile of rocks
say, is exactly the fact that sentient beings can perceive quality. And the
fact that they consist of only non-sentient parts is secondary..that's just
the point...that the primary thing isn't the objective parts of sentient
beings, but rather the quality they percieve. You can then break up the
perception of another sentient being (or yourself) into smaller parts that
existing seperately are non-sentient.

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