Doug Renselle (renselle@on-net.net)
Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:37:41 +0100
Hi Platt and TLS,
Platt Holden wrote:
>
> Greetings LS:
>
> Recent posts by Maggie, Diana and Doug have got me SOM thinking
> (always a
> problematic pursuit) about the next level above the intellectual.
> Pirsig
> hints at a such a level, calling it "a code of Art." What does he mean
> by
> "code" and "Art?"
>
Platt,
I found this in 'Lila:'
"Lila then becomes a complex ecology of patterns moving toward Dynamic
Quality." Page 412 of the Bantam Paperback.
Taken out of context we might infer this Lila to BE MoQ, or at least
part of MoQ. Could this implied goal be what Platt is asking about?
>From Zukav's 'Dancing Wu Li Masters:' "'When I studied physics in
Taiwan,' said Huang, 'we called it [physics] Wu Li (pronounced 'Woo
Lee'). It means 'Patterns of Organic Energy'.'" Page 31 of the 5x8
Quill paperback. Zukav avers over 80 different meanings of Wu Li
together. (Very high implied context sensitivity. Hebrew is similar.)
Zukav says 'Li' is organic patterns, universal order, universal law. He
says 'Wu' means energy. 'Wu Li' also means: nonsense, my way, I clutch
my ideas, and enlightenment. Interesting, eh? Can't you just hear
Sinatra? "I did it..." Speaking of art...
>From Capra's 'The Tao of Physics,' "Needham translates li as 'principle
of organization' and gives the following comments:
"'In its most ancient meaning, it signified the pattern in things, the
markings of jade or fibers in muscle...It acquired the common dictionary
meaning 'principle,' but always conserved the undertone of
'pattern'...There is 'law' implicit in it, but this law is the law to
which parts of wholes have to conform by virtue of their very existence
as parts of wholes...The most important thing about parts is that the
have to fit precisely into place with the other parts in the whole
organism which they compose.' Quoted by Zukav from J. Needham, Science
and Civilization in China, vol. II, pp. 558, 567." Page 290, TTOP.
Then, on page 291, Capra says, "The Eastern sages, therefore, are
generally not interested in explaining things, but rather in obtaining a
direct non-intellectual experience of the unit of all things."
Back on page 87, Capra talks about 'lila:' "The basic recurring theme
in Hindu mythology is the creation of the world by the self-sacrifice of
God--'sacrifice' in the original sense of 'making sacred'--whereby God
becomes the world which, in the end, becomes again God. This creative
activity of the Divine is called 'lila,' the play of God, and the world
is seen as the stage of the divine play."
Capra's further comments on 'lila' in the context of Brahman and maya
are significant analogues of our recent discussions on TLS. Capra says
if we view 'lila' from the wrong vantage we will become confused.
If you have time, I suggest all TLS read Capra's and Zukav's words
around 'Li,' 'li,' and 'lila.' It all fits/complements MoQ in an
artistic and wonderful way.
So Lila could be a code...
I anxiously await other TLS members' responses to Platt's proposal that
MoQ itself be the next higher level. (I am fearful of broaching this
topic directly -- myself.)
Platt, hopefully the above quotes leverage a codified and artistic bent
in our considerations of the MoQ.
Mtty,
Doug Renselle.
>
> As I said at the outset, SOM thinking is problematic. Has it led me
> astray
> in this case? Your comments would be much appreciated.
>
> Platt
>
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