LS Re: PROGRAM Subject-object platypi and Metaphysics of Quality solutions


Magnus Berg (qmgb@bull.se)
Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:21:59 +0100


Hi Diana and Squad

You wrote:
>
> The very notion of free will is inseparable from the notion of subjects
> and objects. To even speak of it is to show that you've swallowed the
> subject-object metaphysics whole.

I don't think so. It only means that subjects and objects are still real.
They are not the first division of reality but they are deductible using
MoQ divisions.

The Quality Event is the origin of subjects and objects, it is the missing
link in the SOM dualism. If a QE is very static, the moon orbiting the earth
for example, we call it deterministic. If a QE is dynamic, me deciding when
to go home from work for example, we call it free will.

> It is the subject that has free will
> after all. You cannot be Dynamic and have a fully fledged subject
> concept at the same time. "Man makes choices" is pure SOM. Who makes
> choices? The little ghostly "me"s that live inside our heads apparently.
>
> Lose the idea of subjects, on the other hand, and the question
> evaporates; there's nothing left to have a will.

But that doesn't explain anything. Granted, the question disappears but for
most people, including me :), me-ness feels very real and needs an explanation,
not just an invalidation of the original question.

I don't mean to say that it is DQ which is the "me" inside our heads. I mean
that the "me" is a mix of the static patterns and the DQ we're made of. And
since it is a balanced mix, we call it alive.

        Magnus

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