We seem to be falling into a trap here. Trying to explain what
"reality" is. There's a difference between what reality "is" and how
we percieve that reality. I don't believe any of us can truly know
what reality is. It's beyond us. Too big. I do think that we can
(and do) have our "perception" of what reality is. And THAT is what's
being described as created or not created by our minds.
At least that's what i think.
Shalom
David Lind
Trickster@postmark.net
pclark wrote:
David, Peter, et al.
> Sitting here bored out of my skull I feel the need to comment on some of
your observations:
>
> Peter says:
> So our world is the product of our mind!
>
> Clark says:
> Our world is not the product of our mind. Our world is the product of the
possibilities generated from the beginning.
>
> David says:
> Subjectivity is a feature of every static pattern. Even sub-atomic
> particles
> > make choices in the MOQ, no?
>
> Clark says:
> Static patterns are objective. Subatomic particles do not make choices.
They simply fall into a possible niche that has been prepared for them by the
previous functioning of Quality. Someone has called this process
"deterministic disorder" I think chaos is a good name. This is the process
that Pirsig used to turn around causation from A causes B to B values
precondition A. After the long trip through the life of the universe and
awareness and sentience and the resultant complexity the end result is still
deterministic although it may look subjective to us. Ken Clark
>
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