I aree that there is something deep down about 'not fitting in' which is
something to do with choice. As a 47-year-old, I find that 'not fitting in'
is increasingly irrelevant, permissible, -even comendable. It doesn't
matter, in the sense that one only worries about not fitting in if part of
one is still worried about +fitting in. as one gets older, there are less
and less people to fit in with!
I think the sense of alienation referred to by David (Prince) is a sense we
may carry if we either don't successfully fit, or don't want to fit. Wanting
to fit may seem tantamount to wishing to believe what other peopel do simply
because it might make one popular, rather than any intrinsic 'rightness'
about what we propose to believe. But worrying about it seems to be a
symptom of not having really defeated the pack-instinct completely.
Personally, when I was younger, the bain of my life was not so much the
inability to fit in, but my continuing desire to try to. now I don't give a
bugger. Consequently, it's easier to fit 'as me', and almost impossible for
me to pretend to believe, like, or go along with, anything that doesn't fit
in with me.
Quality for quality's sake, not 'cos it might profit me.
cheers, (just my perspective)
ppl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Moiola" <lmoiola@bluemountain.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: 27 September 2000 01:59
Subject: RE: MD MOQ inc.
> Hello all,
>
> This is my first post. I have yet to finish Lila but have read ZMM
several
> times.
>
> My 2 cents worth:
> My feeling of alienation now as an adult at 28 is much different from the
> feeling
> I had as a high schooler. Then I was the metalhead in a school of
preppies
> and jocks;
> the ol' stereotypes you see in movies like The Breakfast Club or Fast
Times.
> Then
> I felt like I wasn't part of any cliques though I wanted to be. It was
due
> to
> simple choices (music, mode of dress, etc)..an easy cut with Phaedrus'
> knife.
>
> Now I seem to have a deeper sense of not fitting in. It is more of
choice,
> a hint of
> misanthropy..this may be an extreme word but it's the closest I can come
up
> with.
> I have good working relationships but in my personal life I am isolated.
> I struggle to relate with those around me. I become bored or annoyed
> easily.
> I wonder silently "how can these people just sit here and yammer on and on
> about
> nothing!!!" The differences are harder to spot, the lines aren't so
> concrete.
>
> I agree, there were symptoms early on which may have prefaced who I am
today
> but
> I think it is something deeper, more to root. It's something like nature
vs.
> nurture.
> Am I the product of those external factors or did I make the choice
> somewhere?
> "Integration" was a term that popped in my head one day and continues to
be
> the
> impetus which drives me. That feeling of alienation comes from internal
> turmoil,
> a feeling of duality (the child vs. the adult, intellect vs emotion,
> spiritualist vs hedonist)...
>
> Perhaps I am completely wrong on this, but thank y'all for the catharsis.
>
>
> -Larry_Moiola@aretemm.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
> [mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of Sasu Mattila
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 6:13 PM
> To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> Subject: RE: MD MOQ inc.
>
>
> >Everybody is his/her own odd one out.
>
> "Remember, you are unique, just like everybody else."
>
> I do not know who said that but it was well said.
>
> We all are different, but then again on a larger scale we are nothing that
> someone else has not been already.
>
> sasu
>
>
>
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