Re: MD Re: Walking is a social skill/ introduction- post

From: Kenneth Van Oost (Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be)
Date: Sat Oct 07 2000 - 19:55:45 BST


Peter you wrote,

> > I must admit, I'm slightly confused; (it's late and I'm tired); are we
> taking the fact that the boy couldn't walk until he witnessed examples of
> walking as proof that walking isn't innate? - but has anyone made such a
> supposition? (that walking is 'innate' as against 'acquired'). I'm not
sure
> that walking is considered to be qualitatively different to other, more
> recent skills such as reading, or even driving, (or, for that matter,
> talking), etc.....?
> Am I missing something? - I look forard to debate.

<< No, we don 't take the fact that the boy could not walk until he witnes-
ses examples of walking.
I am just saying that the boy could not walk (human- like that is) until he
witnessed examples of Human walking.
" Walking " is an innate evolutionary process. All animals, like spiders,
lions, giraffes, millepedes, monkeys,...are walking in some way_they
walk because of instinctive quality lines.
The tarzan boy witnessed only one form, and it was the monkey- model.
His brain, his Quality Events had no need to switch on the human- kind.
Remerber, a baby- child crawls on all four limbs, until it is old and '
wise '
enough to get up on two_that due to learning- processes of trail and error.

Tarzan boy 's instincts of survival had only one thing in mind,
" stay down " and you will live, " stand up " and you will be killed in a
battle with the strongest monkey.
You could say the real Tarzan made it to the top of his group because
he was then the tallest and probably the strongest...!?

Like walking, reading or even driving are achieved by us after immense
training, by trail and error.
Talking could be considered as in the same line of walking, no model to
use the social variant, Tarzan boy would not speak any human words,
he will only use monkey verbals and cries.
Remerber, children imitate and by doing so they switch on pre- models
of talking,
That is, as a human child Tarzan boy had already inherited human dispo-
sitions about talking, to start the whole of the process up, an example
had to be shown, a new neural connection in order to begin talking the
human way could not be made because an Quality Event did not took place.

In a memetic view, memes are driven to replicate themselves, but only
along given memetic lineages, which those memes did set up, far back
in history in the first place. In memetic sense, the strongest lineage in
order to replicate themselves will win, and in the case of Tarzan- boy
the lineage of Monkey- talking was the best in order to let survive the
human host (the boy) and to let survive the memes.
When the boy was found and brought back into a human society, the
memes or the Quality Events of human talking saw their chance to pro-
pagate themselves further throughout a wider area, and they did see their
chance in taking up human language.

And I don 't think you missed anything, please discuss...

Many regards,

Kenneth

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