Re: MD Fw: new article

From: Johannes Volmert (jvolmert@student.uni-kassel.de)
Date: Fri Dec 01 2000 - 23:19:33 GMT


Hi Kenneth, Hi All,

The article you quoted from, sounded a bit similar at least, or am I wrong ?
(subjective reading, so to say) Well, in fact I feel encouraged by this.

As said before, I found that my idea is working quite well on the biological and
the social level and more or less on the intellectual level - for immanent
reasons it is difficult here - while I assert most subjects of psychology to be
non-intellectual ones, i.e. biological and social. Why?!

To apply my idea to the inorganic level makes, admittedly, more problems.

Kenneth Van Oost wrote: (quoting from the memetics site)

> > Robert L. Carneiro
[...]
> > Students of social evolution are concerned not only with the general
> > course
> > it has followed, but also with the mechanisms that have brought it about.
> > One such mechanism comes into play when the quantitative increase in some
> > entity, usually population, reaching a certain threshold, gives rise to a
> > qualitative change in the structure of a society. This mechanism, first
> > recognized by Hegel, was seized on by Marx and Engels. However, neither
> > they
> > nor their current followers among anthropologists have made much use of it
> > in attempting to explain social evolution. But as this paper attempts to
> > show, in those few instances when the mechanism has been invoked, it has
> > heightened our understanding of the process of social evolution. And, it
> > is
> > argued, if the mechanism were more widely applied, further understanding
> > of
> > the course of evolution could be expected to result.

[...]

Johannes Volmert wrote on Sat, 25 Nov 2000

[...]

> What I try to figure out is the structure of Pirsig-levels, which I intend to
> dissect in smaller steps, called dimensions (working- concept only).
> Every of these dimensions represents a single step of additional quality. These
> dimensions have IMO a certain but nevertheless limited capacity. At the
> beginning of a new dimension/a new quality, there is a strong tendency to avoid
> (...I guess to avoid sharing with other organisms ALL dimensions, so at least
> one dimension).
> Next the 'systems' (your candidate- the votes please :-) ) start the cooperative
> strategy, because when they cannot avoid anymore they have to change strategies.
> And when a dimension is starting to be rather 'crowded' - so q-evolution
> conditions get harder - all involved 'valuebeings' tend to oust other riveling
> 'valuebeings', which in turn increases the possibilty of a new dimension. This
> is the moment when dynamic quality - once a large enough number of valuebeings
> reaching 'zones' of destabilisation - is doing it's best job.

[...]

What do you think?

Looking forward to replies,

wish you well,

JoVo

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