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From: Richard Edgar <rjedgar@edgar9931.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: MD MEMES
Hi everyone, in order to get going again, I will answer to the posts in
order
of receiving. Once again sorry for the delay....
First Kenneth answering Richard Edgar,
> Richard:
> People care about their choices and their freedom to exercise those
choices. Perhaps by default they also care about intellect and politics?
Intellect has partly taken over society but not totally, society still holds
some cards (retail dollars, strikes, etc.)
<< Hm, quite...but, so as an conter example, the change at least here in my
country, from a collective labour agreement to a more personalised one,
that is the employers negoitate with each employeé about his/ hers labour-
and salary conditions is a deed of the Intellect !?
That is, in other terms, the increase in the notion of Individuality is
some-
how " a magic stroke " of the Intellect in order to get closer to the
Individual
in order for a better control of the subject....?
Is that is true, how can you still support your claim that the Intellect
ignores
Society !? The fact as mentioned as above seems to indicate, at least for
me, that the Intellect is a " Founder " of Society, at least it seems that
way...
> Richard:
> I agree they are trapped, but the trapping is that they want avant-garde
and they have kitch. The reward you ask me to define is the ability to
attain avant-garde (people who have what they want care not for pollution,
look at the U.S contribution to the world powers meeting to discuss methods
for decreasing carbon gases and you'll see proof of that!). I agree that
the current failings are those of the social and not the intellect but the
intellect is going to need to sort it out if it is to gain what it wants:
I.E. people being slaves to the economy while kept happy with the rewards
that allow the fulfillment's of the dream of nice car, beautiful partner,
lovely children, designer clothes, large bank balance, good pension, family
pets etc.
<< What is the alternative !? Poverty and crime or living like a hermit,
owing
his/ hers on kitchen- garden and watching the stars at night !? Quite
attemp-
ting prospect, but in our today society something, IMO, not of this world.
The " Back to Earth " movement did not quite made an impact and on the
other hand what is the goal of the Intellect making us slaves to the
economy!?
Slaves are well aware of their situation, now and then, and IMO again,
Christianity was / is still a slave- religion. That has nothing to do with
the
discussion I know, but see my point here.
As a religion Christianity gave the slaves hope that ONE DAY someone
will come to save them. The Intellect is being warned....
Best regards,
Who I am kidding here, I am not still quite well....
Kenneth
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