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From: Richard Edgar <rjedgar@edgar9931.freeserve.co.uk
Kenneth raising questions,
> Dan:
> MOQ states intellect is at war with society, not the politicians or
lawyers.
>
> Richard:
> Are lawyers and politians part of society??? IMO they belong to the
intellect as they do not work for the good of society, they work for the
good of the intellect! Or am I misunderstanding what you mean?
<< IMO, according to what happened after the Dutroux- case I agree
on that. Law is Law !!!
Not as to the spirit of the Law is Law the LAW, but as well as in the letter
is Law THE LAW !! That kind of reasoning of the Intellect makes it
indeed very unpopular into Society. In that case it seems indeed that
Intellect ignores Society, but IMO to keep Society in the palm of their
hand a question not to use frequently.
> Richard:
> It DOES provide an education for the citizens it's just the citizens use
the democratic right not to attend classes, not to do evening studies, not
to further themselves. The options are there, people just don't use them!!
What would society say if people were FORCED to take up extra education
classes as you seem to suggest here?
<< Ok, but why should we care if a personal attitude becomes a social
problem !?
Should we care for people who does not intend their classes !?
Should we care for people who made in the past a " bad choise " !?
If not, is than this a Social point of view or an Intellectual one !?
In other words, solidarity is that something of the Social or something of
the Intellect !?
If it is something of the Intellect thrown upon the Social than, it would
mean
for example IMO, a possible explanation for racism, intolerance, because
it would oppose our Self up against ourselves.
That is, if I had a genetic defect which drives me to intolerance,
solidarity
thrown upon me with others would place myself against myself...that is
perversive...and would lead to intolerance and racism....
> Richard:
> The citizens have more rights and opportunities, they simply CHOOSE not to
use their options, favouring spending nights in bars and restaurants on top
of extra education. You can show a fish where the river is, you can even
give it means to get there, but you can't make it jump in, and you can't
make it drink. We have lots of opportunity to better ourselves to a far
greater extent than criminals ever will, we're just too lazy to do anything
(speaking from societies point of view of course, I know the people on this
list aren't lazy!)
What if they don't follow them because they have no choice not to? Because
they don't understand why they do wrong? Sense of decency is only a good
fundament if you assume everyone has one. What if there are medical reasons
for a lack of this sense? Lock them up and throw away the key just because
they are Ill ?
<< Here you mean I suspect a genetic defect or having " bad memes " !?
Can a mere idea cause medical pathology,
see more at,
http://www.annals.org/issues/v131n11/full/199912070-00019.html
Best regards,
Kenneth
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