Re: MD Re: MOQ as Prescriptive Philosophy

From: PzEph (etinarcardia@lineone.net)
Date: Thu Dec 07 2000 - 21:09:19 GMT


ELEPHANT TO ED EADS RE PRESCRIPRIVE/DESCRIPRIVE:

IMO, the whole point of emphasising the essential reality of value in the
world is that and description, just as a full description, is necessarily
going to be prescriptive. In sum, you can only suppose that MOQ can be the
one without being the otther if you don't understand MOQ. People talk about
a fact-value gap, and about an is not implying an ought. These ways of
speaking are what underlies the prescriptive/descriptive distinction, and
MOQ rejects both of them.

That said, this would be one good way of testing whether or not any of the
supposedly MOQ descriptions doing the rounds really are MOQ descriptions:
you detect a lack of prescrition, and if you are right, then the stuff you
are talking about doesn't really have any place in MOQ.

So your request for a bit more prescription in MOQ Discuss is, IMO, a very
useful one that we ought to think about and act on.

Pzeph.

 

> From: "Ed Eads & Chris Kramer" <edeads@prodigy.net>
> Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:11:04 -0500
> To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> Subject: MD Re: MOQ as Prescriptive Philosophy
>
> Danila:
> Most of the discussion here recently is about MOQ as a DESCRIPTIVE system.
> I would really like to have a discussion about the usefulness of MOQ for
> giving PRESCRIPTIVE guidelines, by applying it to real-life situations.
> Especially I am interested in what it has to say about the environmental
> questions where an expanding human population 'needs' to damage or destroy
> an ecosystem to survive. How can ordinary citizens create a consistent
> INTELLECTUAL pattern using the MOQ that would be acceptable to everyone in
> society and preserve the environment?
>
>
> I applaud the intent here and think the MOQ provides a means of obtaining
> quality solutions. As an example, I'm working on a mathematical model of a
> deer population that has become too large and is now causing problems in an
> adjacent town (hunting is not allowed in the area). The deer had been
> raiding gardens and more and more are getting hit by cars. With the model
> one can determine a minimum number of deer that can be removed or sterilized
> periodically in order to obtain and maintain a stable future population at
> an ideal level. As I see it, the model is at the "idea" level and is being
> applied to the "social" level of deer to enable greater harmony in the deer
> population, as well as greater harmony for the people in the town. I expect
> similar applications abound.
>
> Ed
>
>
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